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Barkley on 12 January 2020
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S.Peelman said:
Barkley said:

It just didn't feel like a Star Wars movie. Sure it had lightsabers and x-wings but...

The sequel trilogy should have had a single director from start to finish, if JJ had been in control of 8 and 9 from the beginning I think they would have been very different films.

IX while not as bad as TLJ felt extremely rushed and the brief addressing of the "holdo maneuver" made me cringe hard. Force Awakens tried to set up plot points, TLJ ripped them down. Rise of Skywalker was stuck trying to continue a story that didn't exist.

TLJ set nothing up, it left a complete blank slate by wiping out the resistance and it killed off a major villain that should have been important to the trilogies plot.

Snoke being alive, and revealed to have been palpatine all along at the end of IX could have worked but without Snoke alive we start IX and suddenly, oh there's Palpatine ok.

But all the blame can't be laid on TLJ. Star Destroyers with Planet Killing Weapons? Are you telling me that the empire had to build a space station the size of a moon, but now we can have 100's of small star destroyers with the same capability? Out of nowhere? WTF?

All logic and sensibility is thrown out of the window to achieve unnecessary escalation such as the holdo maneuever and the planet destroying fleet that completely break the universe.

I think you hit the nail on the head here for the most part. Though IX felt more "Star Wars" to me than VIII, you can't be more right with those last two paragraphs. I thought Starkiller Base was already bad enough in that regard.

I thought Starkiller base was too much at first too, but the more I thought about it the less impressive it became. It's a planet after all, it can't move. No idea what the range of the thing is but it's possible they used it's full potential with that one attack. It's not crazy to think that building a weapon on a planet (regardless of it's immense size) is easier than building a gigantic structure in outerspace too. In terms of volume I assume the death star is bigger also than the trench/facilities they built on the planet.

So I don't think Starkiller base is as useful, expensive or as difficult to make as the Death Star so what first appeared as the first order exceeding the capabilities of the galactic empire actually might not be that at all.

I think the thing about IX that didn't feel like Star Wars to me was the whole Palpatine ritual with the hordes of faceless ghosts watching on, it was really weird. Sure Star Wars has a lot of mysticism, moreso in some of the games, but this just felt like really strange fanfiction.

While TFA played it safe and wasn't perfect I do think it was a good setup to start a trilogy that could have been so much more.