Eurogamer: PS5 and Xbox Series X Spec Leak.

[Mr Puggsly]

DonFerrari said:

Mr Puggsly said:

Well according to VGChartz Kinect Sports is their 3rd best selling game. While Kinect Sports 2 sold a couple million, which is still considerably better sales than most of their games.

It may not be a success, its also very polarizing, but Banjo N&B is fucking great. While Viva Pinata actually did well, had multiple releases and a TV show!

Its difficult to quantify since we don't get actual numbers, but it does appear Killer Instinct (2013) and Sea of Thieves did very well. KI had support for like four years and I found this link about Sea of Thieves. https://gamingbolt.com/sea-of-thieves-still-has-millions-of-players-says-rare-plans-to-continue-supporting-it

People have the impression MS acquired Rare and it was all failure. That's not really the case and its why they still exist.

I did loved Viva Piñata, and yes Banjo N&B was good enough. But Kinect Sports even selling a lot isn't memorable at all.

I don't think Rare is all failure but it doesn't have near the relevance it once had, unfortunately (and I don't blame MS for that, sure they have their share on it, but it is a combination of factors over more than one decade).

Still I said critical and commercial acclaim. KS sold good but it isn't critical acclaim nor memorable, VP I don't remember selling that great (but for all the fun it was I don't think people will remember it for decades after like DK and GoldenEye), Banjo I haven't seem people really happy over it (reason why the Yooka Laylee got hype, and didn't deliver).

But if you were considering this as success then sure they had, I won't compare metrics we both would use but will agree that yes they have kept alive and putting games up. I don't like what they did in SoT (was interested in the reveal, but that gone down fast), but I hope they can make a big hit in all aspects for their next game, they still have the potential I believe.

exclusive_console said:

Comparing previous gen to current with same CU is going to give lot more performance according to AMD. So tflops number can be misleading.  Lockhart if exist and is 4tf is going outperform the current X. If the new X is 12tf RDNA that is very powerful. Even PS5 9.2tf is big jump compared to the current gen console than the tf number suggest.

I expect lockhart to sell more than XSX, but not sure how much it will do against PS5 if it truly is a system 100 cheaper than PS5 but being 1080p vs 4k.

Kinect Sports was locked behind an expensive accessory so the success of that game is even more surprising. I enjoyed Kinect Sports, I actually liked the concept of Kinect but I don't feel like games relying on expensive accessories really works out in the long run.

I didn't really feel critical success was important, especially when you consider some of their MS content has aged better than many of their older and more critically successful content. I never understood the hype critically acclaimed Rare games, not aging well is a reflection of these games always being flawed.

Killer Instinct (2013) would have reviewed well over time. The critics just looked at the launch version though which was more like a demo of content. Sea of Thieves was a critical failure, yet it was successful even at launch. So the opinions of critics aren't always crucial.

If Lockhart is 4TF and PS5 is 9TF, it shouldn't be 1080p vs 4K. It might be 1440p vs 4K. But nobody should expect every PS5 game to be 4K especially if graphics are being pushed forward and developers aim for 60 fps. Those would be the experiences I would expect Lockhart to do 1080p.

But I expect Lockhart to have 4K content as well, as PS4 Pro and X1 do.

Last edited by Mr Puggsly - on 08 January 2020