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zorg1000 said:
yo33331 said:

For the games okay, I can partially agree, as for GTA V I think it helped a little with the declining sales.

For the other things, Yes all of the consoles had drops I am not denying it, but after those 1 time big drops they continued to sell for 5-6 years more and do good numbers overrall, and the drops year on year on PS1, PS2 and even PSP werent so big. PS1 in it's last years had dropper around only 2M every next year, which is little. PS2 around the same difference. PSP dropped for 4 years, within 1-2M every year. And now all of a sudden everyone thinks that because PS4 had one medium drop 2019, with 4M that now PS4 will sell 8M in 2020 and 2-3M in 2021 and that's it. This will not be the case. Sony consoles typically sells for another 4 to 5 years (in PS2 case even 7 years) and they are doing preety okay numbers in those years. You can't say that PS4 will just make another 5M or something like that after PS5 and that's it.

As far as the price cut's I don't agree, because until now everytime every manufacturer had done at 1 and most times 2 pricecuts when console is entering it's end of lifecycle. And PS4 will get at least 1 price cut ( I personally think 2 ) until it dies. And if they did 250$ official MSRP cut this year, it will have at least 1 more to 199$ 2 years later or even maybe 149$ depends on what sony decides. But again here most of the consoles when they are dying the last price they end on is either 99$ or 149$. Again PS3 was just one time case. Because it was expensive to sony and they wanted to get rid of it as fast as they can after PS4, just like microsoft wanted to get rid of the first xbox. Because it wasn't so successful it was losing money. PS3 also wasn't very profitable product for sony as were the others(PSP,PS1,PS2 and now PS4.)

In every way PS4 match PS2 gen and now of a sudden everyone says that PS4 will die as bad or even in worst way than the PS3 ? common ...

PS4 is more successful than PS1 and PSP (those consoles for their overall lifetime sales made very good numbers in their dying years) and is almost around on track with PS2 sales for the same period of time (just barely behind it I think) and now of a sudden will have death worse or equevalent to sony worst performing "dying years" console ? (I don't count the vita because for 16M lifetime in still made around 3M sales in its last years which is around 20% of lifetime sales which is not bad.)

My prediction is still on. 12M at worst. 15M at best (with pricecut of 100$ and superslim, and at least 200 or even maybe 300$ difference between PS5 and PS4).

Sales in years after successor launched

PS1-20 million

PS2-40 million

PSP-7 million

PS3-6 million

PS1 & PS2 went on to sell very well after their successors launched with ~20-25% of their lifetime sales coming in those years while PSP & PS3 both fell off quickly and these years made up less than 10% of their lifetime sales.

The major thing you and alot of people ignore is how much emerging markets have grown since the PS1/PS2 days, consoles used to release years later or take years to catch on in these smaller markets which isnt the case anymore.

Here's an example, Brazil launch dates

PS2-Nov 2009

PS4-Nov 2013

PS2 launched 9 years after the main markets while PS4 launched at the same time.

As for price, here are the prices when the successor launched.

PS1-$99

PS2-$129

PS3-$199

The price has gone up with each platform so why are you so certain that PS4 will go under PS3 price?

Didn't PS3 stay even higher than that officially?  Plus it was higher due to cell tech almost never coming down in price at that point.  So it was hard to get the price below a certain point.  With the more common parts on PS4 coming down in price easier I think PS4 could at least come in a little under



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