Eurogamer: PS5 and Xbox Series X Spec Leak.

[Mr Puggsly]

goopy20 said:

Mr Puggsly said:

Again, those GoW titles you call spin offs are not spin offs. They are simply GoW games.

I agree Sony has done a great job making new IPs, it comes partly out necessity though. They needed to make new IPs because their old ones weren't that interesting anymore. What bugs me is Sony keeps making story driven 3rd person adventure games and I find that kinda boring. But its successful so I can't argue with them beating that horse.

Bungie moved away from Halo because they didn't own it. They simply created a Halo clone with RPG elements.

Something you may find interesting is Epic was actually working on Gears 4 before MS purchased the IP. Not only were they working on it, but many of the ideas were used in the game Coalition created. Taking that into consideration its possible Epic would have done something with Gears if MS did not buy it. However, I don't think Epic has really made a single player or story driven game in years.

When it comes to Halo and Gears, there are tons of stories they could do just in those worlds. Uncharted can't really do that though, those games are about Nathan Drake. GoW can't do that either, because nobody cares about that world beyond Kratos. Games like Halo, Gears and Fable don't have to rely on the same protagonist per se.

MS bought the rights of Gears because Epic wanted to focus on other projects. 3 Years later, Epic launched Fortnite, one of the most popular games of all time with 250m players and billions of yearly revenue. While MS made 2 lack luster Gears games with a 82 metacritic score that sold 20 times less of what Gears 3 did.   

There's no arguing taste, of course, and I did enjoy Halo and Gears. But I'm sure I'm not the only one who wants to see something different from MS's first party studios. I mean the next gen is about to start and MS still has only Halo, Forza and Gears to persuade people to buy their console instead of Sony's. What's worse is that both Halo and Gears are seeing a downwards trend in sales and review scores. While Sony has been hitting home runs with new ip's, both in critical acclaim and sales, for years. 

Right, Epic made a fortune with Fortnite. Does that mean Epic can only work on a single project at once? Epic also sold Gears well before Fortnite became a success. At that point they were working on multiple projects, not just Fortnite.

Okay, you're saying a bunch of nonsense now. On Metacritic Gears Ultimate got a 82, Gears 4 got a 84 and Gear 5 got a 84. All respectable scores for products that don't necessarily appeal to critics. Fortnite on PS4 had 78 when it launched.

Gears 4 or 5 didn't sell as much as Gears 3, but does that mean they're failures? Absolutely not. Your assumption of "sold 20 times less than Gears 3" is incorrect.

Are we now pretending mega popular IPs are now the only incentive to buying a console? They have the IPs you mentioned, Hellblade 2 was announced, Outer Worlds sequel may be exclusive, Obsidian and Rare showed new IPs and its safe to assume other new IPs will come. Then you have the biggest reason people buy Playstation and Xbox consoles, multiplat games like Fortnite.

MS claimed Gears 5 sold great, but I'm sure you'll be skeptical about that. Meanwhile Halo Infinite could be a great success. I don't think these IPs will break records, but they seem to do well.

What is this about anyway? Are you under the impression I am trying to have a console war debate? Grow up, I'm just looking at the facts as a consumer that enjoys both really.