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goopy20 on 06 January 2020
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Mr Puggsly said:
goopy20 said:

It doesn't really matter how many GOW spin offs there were. Look at the whole history of the Xbox brand you tell me how many successful AAA IP's MS managed to come up with? It's basically Halo, Forza, Gears and maybe Fable. Except for Gears, all those games game out on the OG Xbox. Now compare that to the AAA ip's that have come and gone on Sony's platform, and you tell me who has historically been doing a way better job? Like I said, either MS lacks the creativity or they just don't want to take risks.

You're right about Uncharted, though. It's a flagship title for Sony but the story came to an end and they decided to put it to rest and move on. Gears and Halo's story has came to an end 3 games ago. But even when the original developers moved away from those franchises MS decided to put half of their 1st party studios into keeping those franchises alive.  

Again, those GoW titles you call spin offs are not spin offs. They are simply GoW games.

I agree Sony has done a great job making new IPs, it comes partly out necessity though. They needed to make new IPs because their old ones weren't that interesting anymore. What bugs me is Sony keeps making story driven 3rd person adventure games and I find that kinda boring. But its successful so I can't argue with them beating that horse.

Bungie moved away from Halo because they didn't own it. They simply created a Halo clone with RPG elements.

Something you may find interesting is Epic was actually working on Gears 4 before MS purchased the IP. Not only were they working on it, but many of the ideas were used in the game Coalition created. Taking that into consideration its possible Epic would have done something with Gears if MS did not buy it. However, I don't think Epic has really made a single player or story driven game in years.

When it comes to Halo and Gears, there are tons of stories they could do just in those worlds. Uncharted can't really do that though, those games are about Nathan Drake. GoW can't do that either, because nobody cares about that world beyond Kratos. Games like Halo, Gears and Fable don't have to rely on the same protagonist per se.

MS bought the rights of Gears because Epic wanted to focus on other projects. 3 Years later, Epic launched Fortnite, one of the most popular games of all time with 250m players and billions of yearly revenue. While MS made 2 lack luster Gears games with a 82 metacritic score that sold 20 times less of what Gears 3 did.   

There's no arguing taste, of course, and I did enjoy Halo and Gears. But I'm sure I'm not the only one who wants to see something different from MS's first party studios. I mean the next gen is about to start and MS still has only Halo, Forza and Gears to persuade people to buy their console instead of Sony's. What's worse is that both Halo and Gears are seeing a downwards trend in sales and review scores. While Sony has been hitting home runs with new ip's, both in critical acclaim and sales, for years. 

Last edited by goopy20 - on 06 January 2020