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xMetroid on 05 January 2020
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EricHiggin said:
Ka-pi96 said:

Yeah, the "handheld market" isn't really a separate market. They're just gamers like everyone else. It's that kind of silly thinking that leads to people making statements like "Switch is a failure if it doesn't sell as much as the Wii + DS combined". That kind of stuff is just ridiculous.

Plus, if you want to be pedantic about it then one could argue that the PS Vita was essentially a PS4 handheld due to the remote play feature. How many sales exactly did that "add"?

I'm not one who believes that Switch would be a failure if it doesn't match Wii(U)+DS sales combined, but I would certainly say that's certainly a more direct comparison than comparing Switch+Lite vs PS4+Pro. It's more like the arguments of counting XB games/services on PC with XB consoles. Which if you're going to combine all sales related to products in the Switch family, then why not all in the Xbox family? 

I'm not putting Switch or Lite down, I think their success is great. I'm just saying that pointing out they won the year undefeated isn't really an honest point, especially when comparing it to the past where even Nin sales were always separate due to the differing markets. If next year SNY slaps a PS logo on their phones, and ports a couple PS4 games over, do those sales count towards PS4? When those total sales beat Switch sales for at least one month if not more, would that seem honest and fair to take a yearly sweep away from them? I'd say obviously not because a phone is not a console, but a handheld is also not a hybrid or console, which is still up for debate to some.

While this point is mainly moot, then why wasn't Vita combined in the first place? Why does it only make sense to possibly go back and count it now? I thought handheld and console markets weren't separate.

Uh ? Sir, the Switch lite is literally the same console that plays 99% of classic Switch games just without the home console aspect. People were criticizing counting PS4 pro and Xbox one X at one point cause it's not just a slim version but adds power and options, this time it's adding more portability. The lite is just a some sort of a "slim" version of the Switch. Literally what does it change that we count the lite towards Switch sales (as we should....), should we also seperate the pro versions of the others then ? 

Anyway, Switch classic came out on top every other month before the release of the lite and i'm pretty sure it would have had the whole year without it.