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HollyGamer said:

" But but but .... PC gamer don't want to upgrade to RTX 2080 and old GPU is enough to play next gen games !!!" 

Wanting to upgrade and needing to upgrade are two totally different things.

You also seem to think that "PC gamers" are a synchronized hivemind, where every member wants the same. Some want to upgrade this or next year, some need to upgrade this or next year, but very few will need to upgrade next year to play new games on a decent level.

And please stop stressing your narrative of the "PC master race", these are strawman arguments.

  • "why would PC Master Race care about Lockhart ???"
  • "PC Master Race need to aim better then top of the line consoles"
  • "Only idiot buy PC to achieved console graphic. Want to go cheap buy consoles or never buy consoles."

Most PC gamers won't have a problem if the new consoles are a bit faster than their mid-range PCs (or aged high-end PCs) as long as the new games still run fine on it. They don't have to panickly invest in new hardware this year and probably also not next year. 

HollyGamer said:
crissindahouse said:

And how does this news change that you will be able to play 4k PS5 and Series X games with "old" GPUs on PC?

And who said PC gamers don't want to upgrade to RTX 2080? Some want it, some want even more and many will be fine to use whatever they have using a resolution and graphics settings they feel good with.

And yes, there will be obviously also some who need to upgrade and everyone upgrades from time to time. Some will this year, some next or in two years...not everyone this year who doesn't already have a 2080.

you cannot expect an old weak GPU below 2070/2080  to play on par with PS5/Xbox X graphic visual fidelity 

If you read my PC thread about how 2080 will be a baseline you will see a hypocrite that don't want to upgrade, but latter  they will underestimate consoles.

Xbox Lockhart will be weaker  " if "  it's truly coming out, for now Not even Microsoft confirmed whether they will release it or not. Even if it's come out why would PC Master Race care about Lockhart ??? . PC Master Race need to aim better then top of the line consoles . :) 

Oh, your infamous PC thread where everything in the topic is wrong?

"Next Gen has arrived"... not yet, still 11 months to go

"PC gamers also need an upgrade."... we'll have to wait and see how fast the new consoles really are and which PC gamers really need an upgrade to play most 2020, 2021 and 2022 games. 

"Xbox Series X specs will be the minimum requirement for next 7 years"... you still don't understand what minimum means. Also the bar will be lower if the PS5 has less performance than the Xbox Series X.