Pemalite said:
That is exactly what the Wii U tried to achieve and what the Switch succeeded with.
How well something does/doesn't do is ultimately irrelevant. If I bought a washer with a dryer function and it failed to dry my clothes, it would be classed as a washer only.
You tried to frame the Switch as being unique with this feature, which it certainly is not. Both have a tablet-like form factor with controls strapped to the side of a display... Just one has the processing hardware in a base station and streams it to a display... Where-as the other has the hardware in the display part of the device and streams it to a base station/dock.
That not all Switch devices are hybrids.
No. The Switch is terrible at being a fixed console, it's underpowered for the task... The portable display tends to hide allot of it's power deficiencies. I am trying to avoid double buying Wii U games for Switch. Plus Wii U is cheap to collect for at the moment.
Actually agree with you here. It's a failure on Nintendo's behalf on communicating what their device was ultimately supposed to be. |
That is exactly what the Wii U tried to achieve and what the Switch succeeded with.
It just had inherent technological limitations which limited it's mobile range.
Yes, exactly! Tried to achieve. The phrase "Tried to Achieve" implies that it failed to incorporate the functions of two devices. That would make it not a hybrid, in the same sense that a flying device that failed to fly is not a plane.
If I bought a washer with a dryer function and it failed to dry my clothes, it would be classed as a washer only.
Yes, that's exactly my point. Wii U fails in it's portability functions on so many levels. It can't play the vast majority of Nintendo's portable IPs. It can't be taken outside of the house, which is the main point of a portable game system. I don't care if Wii U kind of sort of let's you play on the go. That's the same thing as a washer/dryer combo kind of sort of drying my clothes, but still leaving them damp. Wii U gets classified as a home console for the same reason our hypothetical washer/dryer combo gets classified as a washer.
The Switch is absolutely a rubbish device for a fixed home-console, but a terrific portable one, but we still classify it as a Hybrid.
The WiiU is a rubbish portable console... And arguably a rubbish fixed console later in it's lifespan from a hardware perspective.
Switch is a better home console than Wii U. Switch as gotten a great many AAA PS4/XB1 games like Dragonball FighterZ, Witcher 3, Divinity, DragonQuest 11 etc. Despite the fact that both Wii U, and Switch will have spent the majority of their lives as contemporary to the PS4/XB1, Wii U has almost zero AAA XB1/PS4 games in its library. Hell, Switch arguably has a better library of AAA games than XB1! If I were to take my PS4 library, cut out the PS4 exclusives, and add in XB1 exclusives it would be smaller than my Switch collection.
You tried to frame the Switch as being unique with this feature, which it certainly is not.
No I didn't. You simply misread me there.
That not all Switch devices are hybrids.
So what? Not all Vita devices are portable. We have Vita TV after all. But that won't cause anybody to declare that Vita isn't a portable.
Imagine the following argument...
Man A: PS4 isn't a portable, because it can't leave the house.
Man B: So? Vita TV can't leave the house. By your argument Vita isn't a portable!
The existence of Vita TV has zero bearing on Man A's argument. The existence of Switch Lite has zero bearing on my argument. Both are irrelevant.
No. The Switch is terrible at being a fixed console, it's underpowered for the task... The portable display tends to hide allot of it's power deficiencies.
That doesn't make any sense. If I'm using Switch in fixed console mode I'm outputting to my TV, not the portable display. So how would the portable display hide it's power deficiencies?
The WiiU released at a time when it was going up against the Xbox 360 and Playstation 3, so for that it didn't do to bad, sadly Nintendo released it at a time when we were starting to talk about next-gen consoles, which it fell short of.
Consoles need to be judged according to whatever other consoles they spend the majority of their lives prior to obsoletion next to. For example: PS2 should be judged by comparing it to GameCube and Xbox, since PS3 made it obsolete by November 2006.
I know you are trying to talk from a hardware perspective, but hardware power is almost always a useless metric for the greatness of a game system. By your argument the OG Gameboy was a bad handheld system, because the GameGear had color screens.
You do recognize that the WiiU is "pseudo-portable" - Meaning it's a Hybrid of several console approaches. (Fixed and Portable.)
Pseudo means to have the appearance of something, but not actually being the thing it is pretending to be.
What I would really like is for Nintendo 64 and Gamecube Virtual console on Switch!
Yeah, how Nintendo hasn't managed to just keep the Wii VC up, active and updated is beyond me. At this point you should be able to play 100% of Nintendo owned games on Switch, no problem. Every last Nintendo game from NES to Wii U should at the very least be a digital download title on Switch. The only exception would be things that Nintendo no longer holds the rights to.
