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thismeintiel said:
jason1637 said:

MS has done this before with the Xbox and the 360. They weren't making profit until late in the 360 era. Even with gamepass I doubt they're making profit either.  I could see them just eating the loss and selling at $500 because anything more is DOA. 

A big difference. They were doing it to take down Sony. This time around, MS has telegraphed very well where they are headed. Streaming/online services.  That's why XBO HW was not heavily subsidized, but they are willing to lose money on things like Gears 5 to push GamePass with $1 deals.

I think $500 still might be a possibility, but expect more of a $550-$600 price if they really are going with 56 CUs. However, I have seen some crazy suggestions that MS could subsidize it to $399 and win the gen.

I do believe MS is headed towards a streaming and online ecosystem but they still value consoles. That's where the most people play their games. If they didn't care for consoles the Xbox One X wouldn't be a thing and they wouldn't be planning on launching 2 consoles next year.