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Locknuts said:
Machiavellian said:

How is corruption by Biden is Trump business.  There is actually nothing that says corruption within another country is the sole purpose of the president and even if there were, the people under him swore he only cared if there was a public declaration of it.  He care nothing about whether something actually was done. 

Either way, if this is the president business then we have all the proper channels to handle it but instead we have Trump personal lawyer doing the work.  When you can answer why Trump personal lawyer is the one doing the work you probably have a point.  Actually, Giuliani is the achilles heels to this whole dumb stunt.  He is what makes something that Trump could have easily not shone personal and political bias but sending Giuliani to handle the business tells a different story.  Then you have Giuliani going on record saying he was doing the President business as his lawyer doesn't help as well.  I guess its easy to just throw that part out because he did not testify but man would I love for him to take the stand on the Senate trial.  

Not sure what makes you think something like this will auto win Trump for 2020.  There is one thing that these polls do not say, does this affect your vote in 2020.  People may support impeachment but not him being removed from office.  I know a few people in my circle believe he did wrong but not enough to be removed from office.  Now as to whether this will decide if they vote for Trump in 2020, well the 2 does not correspond with each other.

There is a long way to go before we even get to that date and outside of just getting impeached he will have to show he is still fit.  I personally cannot wait to see him debate anyone come that time if some of his rallies is any indication of his mental health.

It's not his only job obviously, but it's not outside the scope of his duties. How he went about it though...yeah that's dodgy. Not necessarily illegal, but suspicious.

No its not illegal but it sure makes it very hard to believe this was not for personal intent when you use your own lawyer, someone who cannot testify against you if you asked them to do something illegal or whatever.  When that same person represent your personal agenda, how can you make the case that this was for the US.  Like I said, Giuliani whole involvement is what throws out everything when people try to say Trump was acting on the US behast instead of a personal one. No one can rightfully explain Giuliani role in this whole affair because when they do, it only leads one place, to this being a personal agenda by the president.

No one is stupid.  The whole point of using Giuliani instead of official means is because everything is recorded during official means.  You side step those means so that you prevent those documents and records to become publicly available.  From there, Trump can say whatever he wants knowing that records of his operation are under Giuliani hands.