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thismeintiel on 18 December 2019
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Hiku said:
thismeintiel said:

I think we have another TLJ on our hands, going by the plot leaks, which have been confirmed. Only this time they aren't exactly pushing an agenda that agenda driven critics can get behind. In fact, them trying to desperately get back the fans they shit on just two years ago may have pissed those critics off.  Now, we just have a mediocre, maybe even bad, film that critics can't ignore is convoluted and poses more questions than answers old ones. Something Jar Jar Abrams is known for.

You claimed you don't want politics in your entertainment. Yet you go out of your way to bring it into the entertainment section, every single chance you get.

If you want to suggest that a movie failed because of some supposed politics not explicitly stated by the film, then make a thread about it in Politics Discussion.
Staff is tired of cleaning up political mudslinging you consistently start outside of that section.

This is a discussion about the ratings of the SW franchise, not an actual film.  And what sticks out like a sore thumb is the critical reception of TLJ.  What I said is not some off topic mudslinging, like you claim.  It really wasn't even that specific or a long rant.  I find it strange you even felt the need to point it out.  But, it does compel me to speak my peace.

TLJ did explicitly state its politics within the film.  And the director and crew stated them in the real world when they bashed fans who didn't like the film as misogynistic manbabies.  If you wish to ignore that, that's fine by me.  However, there's someone who didn't, Disney.  They did a complete 180, trying to get those fans back, basically throwing TLJ under bus.  Unfortunately, they gave the film to JJ "mystery box" Abrams, so now the film is convoluted and brings up even more questions.

And there.  I won't take this "mudslinging" further, nor will I make some specific thread when others are allowed to spout what they wish to say in here or refer to people as fake fans.

shikamaru317 said:
thismeintiel said:

I think we have another TLJ on our hands, going by the plot leaks, which have been confirmed. Only this time they aren't exactly pushing an agenda that agenda driven critics can get behind. In fact, them trying to desperately get back the fans they shit on just two years ago may have pissed those critics off.  Now, we just have a mediocre, maybe even bad, film that critics can't ignore is convoluted and poses more questions than answers old ones. Something Jar Jar Abrams is known for.

Yeah, I read a plot leak on reddit a week or so ago, parts of which were later backed up by the Swedish movie rating agency in their description of the movie, seemingly making that leak legit. That leak was so incredibly convoluted, it was baffling. If that leak was legit, I don't think that I'll like the movie very much, it didn't sound as bad as Episode 8, but still not anything like what I wanted out of episode 9 to redeem the trilogy after episode 8, let alone anything like how I wanted this trilogy to end after episode 7, before Ruin got his hands on it. 

I just can't believe JJ actually thinks he can continue to get away with creating a bunch of questions without answering them.  From what I heard, there is no real explanation as to why Palpatine survived or to explain the retcon to Rey's past.

Edit: User was warned for this post. ~ Pemalite.

Last edited by Pemalite - on 18 December 2019