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Ck1x on 08 December 2019
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Trumpstyle said:
HollyGamer said:

A man can dream, i still hope for 7nm+ as well but there is another choice which is 7nm EUV is not as good 7nm+ but is better then 7nm for sure. 

Hmm not sure what you saying Tsmc 7nm+ is EUV, Tsmc N7P is updated version of Tsmc's 7nm which can do better clocks. Samsung 7nm is also EUV but it's probably worse then Tsmc's N7P but that is just a guess.

Ck1x said:
Well I definitely think that people are taking the Lockhart rumor being close spec to PS4pro to literally. Clearly if they are saying that maybe the theoretical numbers may look similar, but the newer Xbox would easily outperform the PS4pro having a newer gpu and cpu on 7nm+ process. I actually believe it would probably be much closer to the XboxOne X than anything in real world performance...

Yes Lockhart should land exactly at 4TF (18CU's, 1,8ghz) but on benchmarks a 5TF Navi loses to radeon 580 for some reason, even though Eurogamer done tests showing Navi has 50% higher Performance/Teraflops, we just haft to see what happens.

Edit: Ah figured it out, Navi have 20% faster TF compared to Polaris architecture that is in Xbox one X and radeon 580. The 50% number is compared to original Gcn architecture in Ps4 and Xbox one. 

So that's great just talking about theoretical numbers but what I'm saying is there are plenty of other things that will effect achieving those numbers or higher. Currently all we have to compare to are AMD 12nm cards, so we aren't even factoring in transistor density over the 12nm process into the new CPU and GPU for these consoles. This will definitely allow for higher clock speeds and performance, not to mention the higher memory bandwidth these systems should have over current cards...