usa: "PS4 has already sold more units this week > the last several months combined"

[colafitte]

StarDoor said:

colafitte said:

I knew i should not have named Wii, even if i said it was from a lot of reasons. I knew you could bring me that back. Erase Wii then from the conversation, like if i never mentioned it.

The moment Wii declined could've been an opportunity to PS3 to up their sales in USA like it happened in the rest of western regions, but it didn't happened in USA because X360 occupied Wii place during those years. Saying Kinect audience would have not bought a PS3 instead is something we will never know for sure. Maybe there was an audience post Wii era that wanted a COD console to play and Kinect was the defining factor to choose a X360 instead of a PS3 in USA. You can't prove that it was not a possibility.

This is just as applicable to your argument as it is to mine. "Saying the Switch audience would have bought a PS4 instead if Switch didn't exist is something we will never know for sure." We may never know for sure, but we can speculate based on the data we have. I think there's far more evidence of the Xbox 360 reaching outside the typical Sony/Microsoft audience than there is of the Switch stealing sales from PS4/XOne.

Speaking of data, here's more of it:

	North America	Europe	Japan	Rest of World	Global
PS2 + Xbox	69.42M	62.45M	23.71M	26.75M	182.33M
PS3 + Xbox 360	78.53M	60.86M	12.13M	21.69M	173.21M
% Change	+13.12%	-2.55%	-48.84%	-18.92%	-5.00%

http://www.vgchartz.com/analysis/platform_totals/

It's no coincidence that Gen 7 sold considerably more in North America than Gen 6 despite declining in every other region. Gen 8 won't reach Gen 7 in the US because Kinect gave Xbox 360 wider appeal than a typical Sony/Microsoft console. That's all there is to it.

Your argument follows the same thought process as "consoles are dying because WiiU+XOne+PS4 are way behind Wii+360+PS3." Consumers are perfectly fine with not buying any console during a generation if they're all unappealing. It doesn't mean the audience has shrunk, or moved somewhere else.

I was not counting Nintendo consoles here because WiiU is a mess to compare to, that's why i was using what X360+PS3 did compared to what PS4+XBO are doing.

And yes, my point is just a speculation. I "believe" is what is happening because i can't proove any of it. I can't even tell you i am right and you're wrong, i'm not that confident, but i really believe that if one console cost 300$ to buy, with 60$ games to an audience that is mostly adults like PS4 audience, that console definitively affects the process of buying another console similar in price like PS4 or XBO. I'm not saying that any person buying only a Switch this holiday would buy a PS4 instead if Switch didn't existed, but i really believe that a considerable % of that consumer would've indeed bought a PS4 or XBO instead if that was the case, so in the end, yes, Switch is indeed affecting PS4 and XBO sales. How much??, i don't know, but it does.