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colafitte on 01 December 2019
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StarDoor said:
colafitte said:

I'm not talking about having a peak year in year 3 or 4 in USA (which should have been normal considering what happened with PS1, PS2 and PS3). I'm saying that PS4 and XBO were ahead compared to last gen just before Switch launched and now they're going to end behind, when that is not going to happen in any other place not called Japan, another country/region where Switch has performed much better than PS4 in the last year or two.

Europe:

X360+PS3: around 61M
PS4+XBO: Already at 55M, they probably will end around 65-70M margin

Others:

X360+PS3: 21'5M
PS4+XBO: Already at 23M, they probably will end around 30M

*according to VGC data of course.

I don't know guys..., but Japan and US sales both have seen PS4 going down quickly and both have seen Switch going up quickly. If you consider that a coincidence..., well, we agree to disagree then.

Xbox 360 + PS3 numbers in the USA were inflated by the success of Kinect. You can see just how popular it was in North America compared to everywhere else:

http://www.vgchartz.com/game/45608/kinect-adventures/sales

The effect is easily observable in its annual sales from 2010 onward: (US, Xbox 360 is the top line, PS3 is the bottom one)

Compare that to Europe, where Kinect wasn't nearly as popular: (PS3 is the top line, Xbox 360 is the bottom line)

In contrast to the 360, PS4 and Xbox One haven't done anything to appeal outside of their typical third-party, AAA gaming audience. That's why you see a decline for Gen 8 in the US. It has nothing to do with Switch stealing sales from them.

Also, PS4 was flat between 2016, 2017, and 2018 in both the US and Japan, so the idea that it's declining because of the Switch makes no sense to begin with.

And that was my point. The "hot item" for USA during 2010-2012 was Kinect and affected a lot Wii (for a lot of different reasons too i admit) and PS3 sales. In Europe Kinect was not that big of a deal and PS3 was not affected in consequence.

Switch is having the same effect on XBO and PS4 sales in USA like Kinect had those years. It's the "hot item" now. It's the main selling point in every US videogame shop for this holiday season. It grabs all the attention, and people can spent so much money in videogames in the holidays....If you spend 300$ in a Switch, there's a lot less chances you buy a PS4 or XBO then.

And the fact that PS4 has been flat in 2016, 2017 and 2018 in USA....,well, maybe it wouldn't be flat if Switch didn't existed. PS4 went from around 6'8M sold in 2015 and 2016 to 7'8M sold in 2017 and 2018. USA did not see that same growth, why then?, why USA did not grew as Europe did?.

Last edited by colafitte - on 01 December 2019