| Jumpin said: You took the word "adequate" out of context to spin a straw man to dismiss rather than addressing my actual point. I used the word adequate as a label to differentiate cutting edge sequels like Breath of the Wild and Super Mario Galaxy from the throwback games like New Super Mario Bros and Phantom Hourglass. This was done to summarize and clarify what I wrote in my previous posts. Arguing that DKC Returns and Tropical Freeze are like the latter because they aren't groundbreaking isn't in any way assuming the consequent. If I stated something like "Some worthy followups are DKC games, therefore DKC Returns and DKC Tropical Freeze are worthy followups." that would be assuming the consequent. I've already pointed out examples of cutting edge follow-ups in the Mario and Zelda franchises (Galaxy and BotW) on the same consoles as DKC Returns and DKC Tropical Freeze. They did not require stronger hardware to make substantial impacts on par or superior to their most impactful predecessors. Saying that DKC couldn't have a groundbreaking 3D follow up is simply a lack of imagination on your part. |
No I addressed your point just fine the problem is on your end here because the term cutting edge and adequate do not fall in the same context as one is an objective term the other is subjective so this claim about being taken out of context doesn't make any sense when this was your original reply.
"The difference being that the DKC games Rare did in 1994 were state of the art platformers with two of them being the top selling games of the year, and the third being a top 5 game for the year. DKC Returns and Tropical Freeze were nowhere near state of the art games or top 5 selling of the year, leave alone 1st."
The word adequate was not even used until you bumped the thread and at that point you had already set the context on being focused on cutting edge and salesso no you weren't taken out of context as you set that context yourself. Galaxy was also not cutting edge as the were far more technical games at the time and before it even launched while BOTW is cutting edge as it's a game that can be play portable an area where no game does what it does.
