The cuts for the Sw/Sh dex were worse than even the most pessimistic predictions

[JWeinCom]

Lonely_Dolphin said:

JWeinCom said:

First off, please show me any point where I said or implied that Game Freak said this was a rationale for reducing the number of Pokemon.  It will be hard to do because I didn't.  I for one don't make assumptions on the rationale of others without good reason.

Second of all, please show me where I said that anyone was incompetent.

Third, longtime players have access to a boatload of options because they have access to previous games and can transfer Pokemon.  If someone already has them from previous gens, a new player will have to spend a significant deal of time to catch up.  I thought that was self explanatory but if it wasn't, that's what I meant.

Fourth and most importantly, are you capable of having a respectful argument in good faith, or are you simply going to assume motivations and put up strawmen? If you can, I can clarify my points.  If you expect me to defend points I never made, I'm not going to bother.

Accusing me of strawmaning when that's literally what you're doing right now. I don't think you're stupid, I think you understand what I said and are just nitpicking and reading too much into it to distract from the main point, that metagame benefits is a poor defense. If you have nothing more to say on that matter then we're done here.

Please show me where I said that Game Freak had used the metagame as an argument for reducing the number of Pokemon.  If you can't do this, then that means you are arguing against an point that I never made. That is the definition of a strawman argument.

If you can show that I've used a strawman argument, please do so, and I'll happily retract it. You made an assertion, so please back it up.

Also, you are again not arguing based on any actual facts or what was said, but ascribing motivations to me. That's an ad hominem fallacy.

For the record I believe I understand exactly what you meant.  However, what you meant (or rather what I think you meant) shows that you either misunderstood my points, or are deliberately misrepresenting them.  If it's the first, I can clarify.  If the latter, then you're being dishonest.

Last edited by JWeinCom - on 06 November 2019