Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker final trailer

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thismeintiel said:

Lonely_Dolphin said:

Of course he does, anything to distract from acknowledging the movie's flaws. Notice how he completely dropped talking about the movie itself, instead sidestepping into irrelevant tangents like review scores and the definition of mary sue. He and other apologist desperately want to believe it's a good movie, so they'll believe it's hated with invalid criticisms and ignore everything that proves otherwise.

The irony is that people keep trying to say that others only had problems with it because of politics, when it appears to me that people only want to defend it on the grounds of politics.  That's what seems to be the overwhelming go to when they have no defense of the film.  "Neckbeards only have a problem with it because of strong women and/or minority."  Of course, they ignore the hour plus vids that go into detail about everything wrong with the flick, while only giving social politics a short mention.  I do have to say, it is freaking hilarious to hear anyone talk of neckbeards condescendingly, as they live on both sides of the political spectrum.

Oh, and I looked up the definition of a Mary Sue.  All that was there was a picture of Rey.

If you're watching hours-long videos about everything wrong with the movie, I am not surprised you don't like it. 

Interesting you raise Mary Sue here though. The concept has long been co-opted by misogynistic elements to tarnish characters that are 'competent-while-female'. I don't know you, and I appreciate you're adamant that is not your intent. But you shouldn't be surprised when you firmly define Rey as a Mary Sue despite there being at worst significant debate on the point and at best significant evidence she is not a Mary Sue, that people question whether you've a politicised bent to your criticism of TLJ.