PS4 is way past the time for another price cut

[The_Liquid_Laser]

JRPGfan said:

The_Liquid_Laser said:

What generation would you put the Wii in?  Is it in the same generation as PS2 and XBox?  Or PS3 and XBox360?

Nintendo doesnt follow logic..... their consoles have a habbit of being old tech or behinde the curve compaired to competition.
You could argue they are a gen behinde imo, and some gens have 2 consoles (short cycles x2 vs others 1 long).

The Wii U was basically onpair with the PS3 and XB360.
Switch is also closer to PS3/XB360 than it is the PS4 in terms of power.

That said I do consider the Switch current gen.... its just the slowest of the bunch because its a handheld hybrid thingy.

The Wii is a generation 7 system.  Thanks for playing.

Hiku said:

While I agree that it's past time for another price cut, I can't argue with them on the business front. They seem to know what they're doing, even though from a consumer perspective, it seems like they should.

The_Liquid_Laser said:

What generation would you put the Wii in?  Is it in the same generation as PS2 and XBox?  Or PS3 and XBox360?

Look at what generation of games the majority of a consoles new releases come from. That's the generation it belongs to, since games define a system.

If PlayStation 5 was an 8-bit system it would not be referred to as a next generation system, because it can't play 'next generation' games.
Generations partly encompass a period of time. But that's a symptom of the process, and not the cause. That process can change. A generational cycle can last 4 years, or 7 years, depending on when the industry is ready to move forward. And it denotes more than just a time stamp.
There has to be an obvious difference in technology between a Generation 3 and a Generation 9 games. The closer the generations get though, the blurrier that line becomes.

By one metric, Switch is a Generation 9 system. As a handheld, it is an obvious generational step forward from the games of the 3DS.
As a home console though, it is not in that sense.

Perhaps pairing together console and handheld generations only made things more confusing in the end.

One thing developers generally start doing when a console generation shifts is they start producing games featuring current gen technology.
And the systems that incite this move are PS5 and Scarlett.

Your logic isn't consistent.  In one sentence you say games define a system, and then in the next sentence you are talking about the power of the hardware.  Which is it?  Is it the games or the power of the hardware?  This also ignores the fact that in the past, generations were not really defined in either way.

See, neither you nor I nor Sony nor Nintendo gets to define what a generation is.  The marketplace defines what a generation is.  The marketplace defined the Wii as a next generation system even though it's hardware was about as powerful as a Gamecube.  The Wii was the successor to the Gamecube according to the marketplace.  It also competed with the PS3 and XBox360 according to the marketplace.  During the first 3-4 years the Wii sold fantastic and the other 2 consoles sold slowly.  About the time that Wii sales plummeted, the PS3 and XBox360 started to take off.  This is not a coincidence.  They were competing.  The marketplace put them in the same generation.  

The marketplace has already put the Wii U, XB1 and PS4 in the same generation.  The PS4 has already won generation 8 in the home market.  The 3DS and Vita were in the same generation.  The 3DS has already won the generation 8 handheld market.  The marketplace is also treating the Switch as the successor to the 3DS and Wii U.  The Switch is not selling like a generation 8 system.  It is selling like a generation 9 system.  It's not competing with any other system on the market, because it is the only generation 9 system on the market.