| Pemalite said: Well. No. It's not a matter of opinion. |
You just showed us that it is a matter of opinion ...
To you, an increase over natural levels is not acceptable but that doesn't mean everyone else will agree with that stance ...
| Pemalite said:
Again... I haven't made the damn claim that life will cease to exist soon. |
Still doesn't change the overall world trend that the quality of life has been increasing ...
As far as sea level rise is concerned, according to a 2014 IPCC report on page 1191, the high-end estimate mean sea level rise is 0.83 meters by 2100. It's more realistic to expect a mean sea level rise of ~0.5 meters by 2100 so the impact of sea level rise over 80 years will largely remain imperceptible even to island nations ...
With industrialization, we can expect to use water treatment facilities so what's your point about polluted waterways ?
Smog is a health concern but people now have better healthcare access due to industrialization so it more than balances out the odds ...
| Pemalite said:
Are you being serious? That pollution is worth it? Say that to the millions of people dying all around the world every year. |
Show evidence that millions of people around the world are dying directly due to human pollution ...
Even with diseases like cancer and in particular skin cancer, just over 100000 people die each year from it but you'd be hard pressed to attribute a significant amount of the causes of ailments being down to anthropogenic climate change ...
I lack empathy but somehow you're constantly implicating that less industrialization is somehow supposed to be more humane when that goes against common knowledge ? In that case how dare I advocate for more pollution to increase human life span, increase electricity coverage/uptime, improve healthcare, and ending poverty/world hunger indeed, oops ... 
| Pemalite said:
Supporting the natural environment is not an extreme position, never has been, never will be. |
Yes it is since mother nature is less compassionate than you think it is so it's only fair to bend it to do our bidding ...
Modern civilizations like ours only exists to exploit nature for human purposes ...
| Pemalite said:
Sony doesn't control the means of living... And to be honest, you just sound salty because you can't get your own way. The world is pushing towards a greener direction, which is a damn good thing. In saying that, even monopolies can topple over when consumers vote with their wallets, simple as that, the remnants of past businesses are everywhere. |
If only it were a good thing since nature has not ever been a very good caretaker for humans so it's only fair that we take matters into our own hands when nature doesn't have our best interests since it couldn't care less whether we were alive or not ...
Consumers will vote with their wallets alright, they'll probably vote to keep themselves alive if it means kowtowing to electric generation companies to keep the lights on because people can't afford to get on their bad side even if it means ideological conflicts ...
| Pemalite said:
Never claimed you had to be energy self sufficient. - It is all about balancing your carbon foot print, that's the entire point. |
@Bold How do you effectively achieve this without being energy self-sufficient or maybe going nuclear ? Both of which are certainly going to run over budget ...
| Pemalite said:
Nah. |
I think it's the only reasonable proposition ...
