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Azzanation on 11 October 2019
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DonFerrari said:

We are both banned from talking to one another although you usually forgets it. But since this post seems well behaved I'll reply.

Than why do you reply to my posts in other threads? The Site admins are not stupid, just because you didn't directly reply by hitting the reply button is still replying to my posts.

Yes Xbox had more 3rd party exclusives than PS4 on the beginning of the gen (speculation is that devs expected MS to win the gen at that moment). But users had seem MS drop the ball on the late life of their consoles on Xbox og and X360 with very few AAA games, while Sony kept launching the best games they could until the brink of the next gen (just see PS3 with TLOU and GT6 coming in the same year and in GT case months away from PS4). That had people trust on Sony support for the system. You can try to dismiss or lower the impact, put it will stand.

That has nothing to do with how successful the next console will be.  WiiU to Switch proves your point invalid.

Sony had plenty of great exclusives on PS1 and some of them were 1st party at the moment or became after acquisition. To say Dreamcast had a great 1st party output is pushing the boundaries a little, if that was true it wouldn't have suffered such a major and fast defeat.

They had no where near the quality of 1st party games as Nintendo and Sega did. 

But not sure where you got confused on the conversation, I was talking of the Sony of today with him, he is talking about Sony, MS or Nintendo leaving the market, that would happen based on the content of today and reliance of today not of PS1. Today on PS4, Sony is a lot less reliant on 3rd party than they were on PS1 and they are much less reliant than Xbox. Because Xbox have been cheaper than PS4 since basically the second year on the market and had most of the 3rd party games (exceptions outside of games not much relevant outside of Japan are very few) so if Sony was as reliant on the 3rd parties as in the past then most likely Xbox would have had a chance of catching up. Also if Nintendo 1st party was unbeatable they wouldn't have lost all the gens I have mentioned. All companies depend on larger or lesser degree of their own 1st party and 3rd parties to deny that is just plain wrong.

Majority of companies rely heavily on 3rd party, its really only Nintendo who can continue to sell systems based on there own software. Sony are good at marketing there system and playing it safe while as we have seen with Sega, Nintendo and Xbox, they try doing newer innovating things. Just look how different they are compared to the previous console. The 360 to OG Xbox, The DreamCast to Sega Saturn, The Wii to GameCube, than look at the PS1, PS2, PS3.. All same controllers with better hardware.

And sure I would expect you to try and take away credit from the success of a console that were able to dominate 3 gens without any contest and on the one they made several mistakes were able to overcome and still outsell its main competitor.

In junk time sales? sure, but the 360 was hands down a more successful platform regardless. One company drops support to prepare for the next gen while the other company continues support in that current market. That's not beating your competition, that's the competition leaving because the race was already over. The Dreamcast flopped while the Gamecube wasn't marketed well, that helped the PS2. The WiiU flopped and the XB1 wasn't marketed very well, that helped the PS4. Its pretty obvious as to why Sony has these blow out generations and that's because the DreamCast, WiiU and XB1 didn't play it safe, you know who did play it safe? The PS2 and PS4.

Sorry to tell you, but success hardly come from playing safe, it comes from playing smart. You change what you need and keep what is doing well, but no company could be as dominant in a field for 20 years just playing safe.

Wrong. Sony play it safe and in some cases smart and safe. They usually wait for someone else to make the change and if it works they than go in and mirror it. EG PS Move stolen straight from the Wii's success and PSN taken straight from Xbox Live. I can name you a list of things Sony take that they have been doing since the PS1 days like Rumble packs and its no different to the PS5 with HD Rumble etc. Thats playing it safe. Taking risks is when you try to push something no one has done before.

My main point out of all this is Sony rely on 3rd party just as much as Xbox do. The PS4 and XB1 would do horrible in sales if it wasn't for the 3rd party support.

Last edited by Azzanation - on 11 October 2019