| fatslob-:O said: If you think needless massive austerity is the way to go then be my guest but by no means will it change the very fact that this is a political issue ... |
Even if they were not going to take a stance, that would also be political due to their inaction on a very important issue that effects us all.
Remember "Action speaks louder than words" more often than not!
| fatslob-:O said: Sony should be ashamed of themselves for blatantly taking sides like this and risking damage to the fragile social state of our society ... |
Nah. Sony should pat themselves on the back for taking one of many steps forwards.
If a society is "so fragile" that a company enacting a few greener initiatives is enough to cause it's collapse... Then that country should collapse.
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Conspiracy theory. Disregarding in it's entirety.
| fatslob-:O said: Annoying enough as it is around here to see Trump getting mentioned for the wrong or irrelevant reasons ... |
I honestly hope he gets re-elected again, the free comical entertainment he has provided to the world has been priceless.
| EricHiggin said: The thing is it's become clear that climate change isn't the house on fire it was said to be so long ago. The world should be ashes by now, or heavily flooded, yet isn't, and isn't even close to that. |
:looks at career:
Except fires are getting more intense and more frequent.
| EricHiggin said: Imagine if we tried to enact the same kind of policies that are trying to be enacted now, like 40 years ago. Just think of what that would have done to the worldwide economy back then and where the world would be now because of it. |
Why do people think going green somehow has to be at the detriment of the economy? You can initiate greener initiatives and profit greatly from it.
Nor does going green mean banning the production of all CO2 or other gases anyway.
| EricHiggin said: Also look at the tech we have now to start mitigating it. What if we can wait another 20 years for a solution that solves things in the same amount of time, or less, and way more efficiently, than if we started 40 yeas ago, all without having to deal with the hardship? |
I think you are trying to hint towards carbon capture technologies? If so, well. That's a gamble. You don't gamble trillions of lives, you just don't.
| EricHiggin said: To say that's a stupid idea because, 'what if we can't fix the problem in time', doesn't make much sense based on our past and our capabilities. We solved the ozone problem for the most part, we went to the moon within a decade, and are seriously planning to go to mars, and eventually have human colonies there, and yet we don't think we'll able to deal with the CO2 problem here? |
And yet... Many denied that there was a growing ozone problem, infact it's generally from the same political side that denies climate change.
But do you know how we solved the Ozone problem? The world got together, the world made a plan, the world enacted said plan.
- Do you know what the world has been doing on climate change? They have been taking a similar approach, CFC's weren't phased out overnight you know, it's a process.
Traveling to the moon or mars is not on the same scale as trying to capture decades worth of industrial CO2 across an entire planet, so lets not pretend it is.
| EricHiggin said: What about the people who have to deal with the heat, drought, or floods up until then? Well it's going to happen anyway for some, so regardless there's that, plus a ton of other people would have to pay for it one way or another if we get serious about it now, so who decides who pays and who doesn't? Who decides to take action now after all these years of 'not doing enough', instead of waiting for tech to do what it does and 'take us to the promised land', when it's renewable and carbon capture tech's time to shine? |
I do deal with heat, drought and floods. I am in multiple rescue agencies.
The data on those are... That such events are becoming more frequent and more intense.
Everyone should pay. And we can't take action soon enough.
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