PS5 will be a "greener" console than PS4

[DonFerrari]

Chrizum said:

DonFerrari said:

You would be surprised by how many good stuff were fucked up by liberals in Brazil on their quest for "equality" by "dividing people in groups".

I think you're missing my point. Which is that the facts and actions matter, not from which party those facts and actions may or may not arise.

Liberals, conservatives, progressives, blacks, whites. Anyone can do right or wrong. Obviously bad things can be done under the umbrella of "doing right". Murdering millions of people may be good for the environment, but that obviously doesn't make it right. It shouldn't matter if a liberal or a conservative goes on a killing spree. People are so tied to their political affiliations that they can only condemn those from another group, and turn a blind eye when it's someone of their own. Trump is basically violating fundamental democratic laws for political gain and republicans still defend him, even demanding whistleblowers heads.

Actions matter, not if those actions come from the ingroup or outgroup. I understand everyone has their own political preference but that shouldn't stop you from seeing what's important. Taking care of our planet is important.

And you missed the entire point I was replying to you when you complained about polarization, dividing in groups or looking who is doing instead of what is being done.

First, if you don't look the whole process from every single point and ramification you can't assure if in the end the measure will be greener or not. Just like making biodegradable plastic that seems a very good action in Brazil became an issue because those were throw in rivers, they were decomposed by bacteria which reduced the oxygen on the water and ended up killing more fishes than simply having a common plastic bag that would be floating there. There are plenty more examples (like electric cars which due to the big and heavy batteries, being charged by thermal usines, on its lifecycle had a bigger carbon footprint than regular petrol cars).

Second, you failed to understand that in several places the division is being made exactly by progressives/liberals. Who want to put people in group and make they fight among them because of perceived inequalities and a wish of equality? That is liberals doing. So yes I don't mind giving credits for good propositions they make, but you always have to look at motivation. Like in here the defense of environment by them is mostly a way to bash agroindustrial.

EricHiggin said:
A lot of the catch phrases are poorly worded. Going green, or eco friendly, are really terrible explanations. While they say ocean levels are rising mostly due to CO2 emissions, what they don't say for the most part, is that the planet is becoming greener and greener because plants consume CO2. The more CO2, the greener the Earth gets, to a certain extent, and it has literally been getting greener as CO2 has increased.

https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2016/carbon-dioxide-fertilization-greening-earth

The problem is water levels rising and the planet becoming human unfriendly, whether humans are causing it partially, entirely, or if at all. Part of the problem is we aren't certain of the exact cause or causes and how much each contributes exactly, because it's really complex, and the other problem is messaging, especially when it comes to politicians, because who really believes them?

Regardless, using less natural resources to achieve the same goal isn't really a problem, aside from the jobs that may be lost because of it.

Yep, there are many cases of hypocritical people living in luxury complaining about people hunting animals or doing a polluting work without thinking that taking that out most probably those people would die of famine since they are already close to it.

curl-6 said:

fatslob-:O said:

I don't care, what they're doing isn't fucking cool at all and it comes off as being more annoying since they're trying to shove politics down everyone's throats ... 

How would you like it if Nintendo got into the pattern of being politically more upfront with you in their works such as openly promoting Christian superiority, anti-LGBTQI, or anti-abortion movements ? 

Do you somehow think that that actively promoting politics in everything that these corporations do isn't a detraction at all ?

Again, I don't get how the notion of leaving a healthy planet for future generations is "political". Seems just plain common sense to me.

When you worry about the environment and do actions to help preserve it fully (not small actions) that is really for the benefit of future generations. When you speak about it (doing it or not) it is self promotion.