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DonFerrari said:
Chrizum said:

Ugh this argument again... So if "going green" was something conservatives promote instead of progressives, it'd all be good? The political affiliation of someone is more important than the actual argument that's being presented? "Liberals bad! Conservatives good!"

My God, why can't you people see that protecting our planet should have nothing to do with politics? This "us vs them" mentality is fucking up everything. Just because a "liberal" is saying something, a "conservative" is automatically against it and vice versa, instead of judging an argument by its own merit. Polarization like this is why the US has become such a cesspool. It's literally tearing apart the country. It's so fucking stupid.

People are so narrow minded and let themselves be divided making them unable to see what's really important. That is the real danger and you are falling for it. Truly not meant to be condescending, I just really feel sorry for you. Sorry for the rant but this really gets to me.

You would be surprised by how many good stuff were fucked up by liberals in Brazil on their quest for "equality" by "dividing people in groups".

I think you're missing my point. Which is that the facts and actions matter, not from which party those facts and actions may or may not arise.

Liberals, conservatives, progressives, blacks, whites. Anyone can do right or wrong. Obviously bad things can be done under the umbrella of "doing right". Murdering millions of people may be good for the environment, but that obviously doesn't make it right. It shouldn't matter if a liberal or a conservative goes on a killing spree. People are so tied to their political affiliations that they can only condemn those from another group, and turn a blind eye when it's someone of their own. Trump is basically violating fundamental democratic laws for political gain and republicans still defend him, even demanding whistleblowers heads.

Actions matter, not if those actions come from the ingroup or outgroup. I understand everyone has their own political preference but that shouldn't stop you from seeing what's important. Taking care of our planet is important.