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Pemalite said:

You would be surprised how many games will run on a Radeon 5870 from 10 years ago...
And you would be surprised how many games will run on a Core 2 Quad from 12 years ago...

Both are parts that came out before the 8th gen consoles.

goopy20 said:

I'm sorry but it's pointless to show me benchmarks of games that can still run on a 5870. Sure, there are always games that run at 120fps on a toaster but it's silly to think that you can play any modern game you want at playable settings on a 5870. I know because I recently bought a whole new pc as I couldn't bare the frustration anymore. 

I know a modern pc can run current games at 260 fps with triple monitors and whatnot, but that's the whole point. Running games at 120fps is complete overkill and if you can run games like that, it just means the hardware isn't really being taken advantage of. Fact is that there are very few proper games being developed by top developers who bother to really take advantage of cutting edge pc hardware and it's not really a mystery why that is either. No developer is going to risk making a game on a AAA budget that only 1% of the gaming population can run.

You're making it sound like like Ray Tracing is the norm on pc, even though it only works on 2000 RTX cards and a 1080ti can barely play Metro at 15fps with Ray Tracing enabled in 1080p. Also, if the rumors are true and the next gen consoles do have hardware ray tracing support, it basically means everyone who doesn't own a 2000RTX gpu will need to upgrade to play most multi platform games. Personally I think that would be awesome and I would love to see AAA games taking full advantage of things like Ray tracing. I'm not trying to attack pc gaming here and maybe I can still run some games on my 1060GTX when the ps5 comes out. But as a graphics enthusiast, I would be disappointed if I could, that's all. 

Also, I didn't reply to Star Ship Citizen because I don't count that as a proper game. I does look amazing, though. And I do hope it ever gets released. 

Give me a week and I'll be back home. My old PC runs on an Athlon X4 630 and a Radeon HD 5770, so relatively similar to the hardware Perm touted before. I'm not very big on modern games from AAA studios since they've become increasingly exploitative and formulaic, but I could give it a try. Age of Wonders III, Galactic Civilizations III, South Park: The fractured but Whole and DiRT Rally are a couple of games that do run on my PC just fine in 1080p, some with reduced details. I can try Kingdom Come: Deliverance on it when I'll be back home since I have that game in my library, but didn't get around to play it yet.