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goopy20 said:

Okay, so you're saying my 1060GTX and i5 will run everything fine when the next gen games come out? To be honest, that's kinda depressing. I mean what's the point of buying a 3080 RTX then?

Come on man, you just proved my point. The ps4 has a 7850 gpu and nowadays you need at least a 7850 and quad core cpu to play almost anything on your pc. Now, assuming native 4k isn't going to be the standard next gen, as that would be a waste of resources for anyone who doesn't sit 3 feet away from their 4k tv, we will probably still see most console games using 30fps and 1080p as the standard. PC gamers always make that seem like its a bad thing but it's really not. I mean just imagine if Half Life 3 got announced exclusively for PC and the game would be running on a engine designed to push a 2080RTX to its limit at a locked, smooth 30 fps in 1080p. Just imagine what that would look and play like? Also, do you think anyone would still be able to play it at a playable frame rate on a mid-range gpu like a 1060GTX? Okay, so you're saying my 1060GTX and i5 will run everything fine when the next gen games come out? To be honest, that's kinda depressing. I mean what's the point of buying a 3080 RTX then?

Next year this will happen with all games developed by major studios who try to push these next gen consoles to its limits. Meaning that if the leaked console specs are correct, you'll need at least a 2080 RTX and 8 core Ryzen to get a similar gaming experience on pc, just like you need a 7850 to play any multiplatform game right now.

And yes, in the end pc will always be superior and we'll see pc hardware come out during the console life cycle that'll allow you to play these games at a higher resolution, framerate and with mod support. But my point is that next year these new consoles games will push the boundaries and we'll see games that'll look better than anything we've seen so far. If not, then everyone should be seriously disappointed and there would be no point in releasing a next gen console or new GPU's. 

Just look at the bolded part. The PS4 came out 6 years ago, of course you need at least that to run games these days. That would have been the case even without consoles.

As for your PC: You i5 will probably be very limiting soon. While the games will most certainly still run on it, framedrops and stutter will become inevitable even on the GPU limit since the CPU simply can't produce enough threads. But with your GPU you certainly can continue gaming until 2022 at the very least without much problems.

What you are expecting, that you would need a 2080Ti going forward, isn't true for over 10 years now. Basically since the 260 GTX/Radeon 4770 you really don't need a high-end GPU anymore. Even before, when the 8800GTX came out, the GTS variant, and later the GT variant, were more than enough for anything from that time. Subverted a bit that the first gen of DX 10 GPUs is infamous for having to buy the top naming tier, as the cut-down versions were so cut down that they were masters of none and went from high-end directly down to entry-level.

And you're proving that yourself. You're playing with a GTX 1060 and you say for yourself that you can still play on Ultra at 1440p with that card. If your point was even just remotely true then that shouldn't be possible at all, you would have been forced to reduce the resolution and the details quite a lot. But, like you say by yourself, that's not the case at all.

The reason for this is the diminished returns from the graphics. The GPU power grows in a more linear fashion than the need in power to visually outdo previous works, which grows more exponentially. This is also why the resolution grows and why other means to improve visuals and experiences (High Dynamic Range, higher framerates, Raytracing... the list goes on), as brute forcing better visuals (better in a sense that you see immediately the difference from a distance) would need way beyond what a 2080Ti could deliver.