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goopy20 on 23 September 2019
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Pemalite said:
goopy20 said:

Fair enough. If you like RTS games, PC is definitely the platform to go. I also used to love WOW but I don't think we'll see Blizzard focusing on pc anymore. In any case, I'm not here to upset anyone. PC gaming is great but it's a bit disillusion to think the next gen console games aren't going to raise the bar compared to what we're seeing right now.

Do you need me to list PC developers that focuses on FPS, TBS, RPG, MOBA?

As for Blizzard, there is no guarantee they will release their title on console, but there is a guarantee they will release it on PC.
I.E. Don't expect the next WarCraft or StarCraft to come to a console near you.

Also no one is saying that consoles aren't going to take a leap?

goopy20 said:

Sure mods do give an indication, but it's still just an extra layer of paint on a game that was designed from the ground up to run on current gen consoles and lower spec pc's as well. 

That kinda happens with all game engines though... Fallout 76 uses the creative engine optimized for 8th gen, which in turn is an engine based on the Gamebryo engine that was heavily optimized for 7th gen which in turn was built on the foundations of Net Immerse which was optimized for the OG Xbox and PC.

In short it's just a "layer of new paint" so to speak.

goopy20 said:

Next gen games on the other hand will be designed from the ground up to take full advantage of a 2080GTX.

No they won't. The consoles won't have a 2080GTX. (Nor does such a GPU exist anyway.)

goopy20 said:

We just have to wait and see what that will look like but I'm guessing bigger, more denser worlds, some form of ray tracing and just more overall visual fidelity. That doesn't mean the ps5 will be better than the latest gaming rigs. All I'm saying is that graphics are going to take a leap when next gen consoles come out and for the pc gamers who didn't buy a 2080RTX or better, it will be time to upgrade. 

You don't understand PC gaming if you think people will be forced to upgrade to a Geforce RTX 2080 as soon as the Playstation 5 lands next year.
People didn't need a Radeon 7850 as soon as the Playstation 4 released... Or a Radeon 7750 when the Xbox One came out.

Like I said, if you're into RTS games, there is no substitute for pc. So yes, Star Craft and Warcraft will probably be pc exclusives. 

From what we know so far, the next gen consoles will have an modified Navi GPU that will sit somewhere between a 2070 and 2080RTX. Personally I have a 1060GTX which runs almost anything at ultra settings in 1080 or 1440p right now. But I'm pretty sure I'll need to upgrade when the next gen consoles come out. You say people didn't need a 7850 as soon as the ps4 came out, but just look at the minimum pc requirements of early ps4 games that weren't cross platform anymore such as AC Unity. It requires a Radeon HD 7970. Hell, Far Cry 5 requires a i7-4770 and GTX 970 to run in 1080p. 

And just because game engines are usually designed to scale with more powerful hardware, doesn't mean mods will turn current games into next gen titles. The whole point of scaling engines is that developers can use the extra horse power of next gen consoles to build entire new games that weren't possible with current gen hardware. That's a bit different from amateur programmers adding texture packs to a game or ultra settings that cripple the frame rate with just a slight increase in visuals. It's nice but what do you think will look better, a ps3 game like TLOU remastered in 4k for the ps4 or TLOU 2 in 1080p but designed from the ground up for the ps4? We will see tomorrow but I'm guessing it will be a big leap.

 

Last edited by goopy20 - on 23 September 2019