The Fall of Xbox - Video by Videogamedunkey

[Ganoncrotch]

d21lewis said:

Ganoncrotch said:
Not gonna quote that block of text but you're cherry picking and focusing areas where the x360 did good and ignoring like I said the fact that every unit sold without a hdmi (and loads with) are in a landfill at a cost of over a billion to ms

Also Xbox live didn't launch on the x360, charging 60 for online was the brainchild of the og Xbox it was the 360 which offered digital discounts for the service and eventually free games to counter Sony's psn+ subscription. Again though that 60 per year isn't money from nothing, services cost money to maintain its not like every 60 handed over the counter in GameStop appeared as net income on Microsoft's accounts

Just a couple of things.

-Dreamcast was (in the US) the first to officially charge for online. A whopping $20 a month!

-Original Xbox charged $50 a year. Xbox 360 didn't charge $60 until 2010. 

-PlayStation Plus didn't kick off until 2010. Up until then, their online service was totally free. Up until the 2013 launch of the PS4, online play was still free on all Sony consoles.

Basically, if Microsoft wasn't making a decent profit charging $50 or $60, Sony was doing worse because they were giving it away for free! But I saw it as a calculated loss since, at the time, the PS3 needed every bullet point it could against the surprise popularity of the 360. Before the two went head to head in 2006, many (including myself!) thought it was just another Dreamcast.

I think you're reading me saying that charging for online was the brainchild of the OG Xbox as being a bad thing, I'm saying in the context of "things that MS done in the gaming market to generate revenue" Then their charging for online as an idea to make money didn't start with the X360 as Azz was crediting being an amazing thing that the X360 done for them, that service with the fee started on the OG system for them much like how the PS3 didn't charge for online but instead tried to get people to pay for online by offering monthly games and then later including the online play as a part of that psn+ package, so technically the PS4 was the first system from Sony to charge for online even though PSN+ existed before the PS4 but the OG Xbox was the point where MS asked people to pony up cash.

Nice to know that the DC had a charge for you guys though, here in EU I played a chunk of PSO on my 28k modem mostly free.... local call costs aside lol, remember that... dial up and paying a call charge for every minute connected to the internet, crazy shit. PSO was amazing though.

Always found it nuts about PSN and when Sony announced that they were going to charge people for online play.... it was added in as a footnote to a video which was received by a crowd of cheering fans around the world, gifted to them by MS and Don mattick dropping the X1 on stage and kicking it across the floor as he went to pick it up.

Everyone at the time was so busy laughing at the absolute bastard level of marketing dig that was taking place at the cost of MS that a load didn't even mind the small text which was added to this video which opened up a world of paid online on the playstation, although... at least free to play games are still free to play there and on the Switch, while I do have an active psn and nintendo online network pass, the idea of paying to play free to play games doesn't sit well with me.