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SpokenTruth said:
 
Cerebralbore101 said:
I like Bernie and Warren, but they have some really unpopular ideas lurking in their campaigns. Free healthcare for illegal immigrants, a 50% sales tax on ammo, decriminalizing illegal border crossings, and legal drug dens. These are all just terrible, and unpopular ideas.

Unpopular with whom?  Republicans?  Older Democrats?  Fine.  The Republicans aren't going to vote for anyone but a Republican anyway and the older Democrats need to get out of politics because they are their own swamp.

We are now in the era of the Democratic Socialist for the left.  For the Democrats that don't like it, too bad.  It's your damn fault we're here.  You don't raise a generation on perpetual war, debt, shrinking middle class, drug wars, failing education, a housing crisis, stagnant wages, skyrocketing health care costs and expect us to say, "Please sir, may I have another".

If some Democrats don't like it, what hope do you have the majority of the American public, 70% of which defines itself as either moderate or conservative, would embrace such ideas? Some ideas are popular with a lot of people, yes. Others are de facto dealbreakers to independents and centrists. Don't commit the mistake of believing economically anxious people embrace the left by default. If anything, history has taught us the opposite seems even more likely to happen.

Can a candidate include unpopular stuff in his campaign and still win? Yes. Trump did it, to an extent. Can a democratic candidate do the same? We don't know. If Trumps win again, what then? Will the passive-agressive "fine" and "too bad" suffice for the people enduring four more years under Trump? Or for the rest of the world, enduring yet another unexpected election result enabling and boosting fascistoid far-right politics everywhere?