Right-Wing Star Andy Ngo Exits Quillette After Damning Video Surfaces

[Bofferbrauer2]

o_O.Q said:

Bofferbrauer2 said:

That's more a cultural difference. In most countries outside of the US, freedom of speech doesn't protect hate speech. Rather, hate speech is considered a criminal or at least a civil offense. Hence why for non-Americans seeing a guy like him instigating and/or provoking violence and verbally harassing other people not getting punished for those deeds is a bit mind boggling.

That's not saying that antifa was right to clobber him, far from it. They should get jailed for the violence they did, and they will. It's just that in most countries, he would have been jailed or at least fined for his part and deeds along with the perpetrators of the physical violence.

Also, like others pointed out, he had information about upcoming or planned violence and didn't publish them or went with them to the police. That is a criminal offense, and not just outside of the US this time around.

"In most countries outside of the US, freedom of speech doesn't protect hate speech."

those countries simply don't have freedom of speech

they do not have it ensured by law like the united states does, be good to mention that

They do have freedom of speech enshrined in their constitutions. You can badmouth or make fun of their politicians as much as you want for instance, but hate speech is still a no go.

Besides, it's not as absolute in the US as you might think, either. Try calling somebody a certain N-word for instance and see how that will work out. Or make fun of the cops while they're standing right in front of you. Or shouting fire in a crowded theater as a practical joke. Or curse on a forum like here, for that matter. And that list goes on: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_free_speech_exceptions

there was no violence planned in the video, they planned to walk near antifa expecting antifa to attack them

do you understand that there is a difference or not?

Yeah, no. Just listen closely to the video. They were planning about their weapons, equipment, their numbers, their positioning, if they are well placed to throw their tear gas grenades (the discussion about the wind direction and making sure it wouldn't backfire)... there's more than enough evidence that they were planning to beat antifa (or other such protesters) up.

Also, he's hanging out with right-wing protesters (or counter-protesters) looking for a fight with left-wing protesters. Of course at some point he would become a target, too if both sides clash. But he only reported on what the Antifa did to him and left the whole rest out. That's the same as if in 1941 journalists would have said that the USA are attacking Japan, and conspicuously leaving out that Japan attacked them first at Pearl Harbour to paint the US as the aggressor.

Last edited by Bofferbrauer2 - on 29 August 2019