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LudicrousSpeed on 27 August 2019
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PotentHerbs said:
LudicrousSpeed said:


How does this signify a worry about Microsoft dropping Xbox hardware? That same interview he literally says the best way to play high fidelity games is still with a machine sitting right in front of you. What is confusing about this? You can disagree with their push to include streaming all you want, you can disagree about the importance of services and engagement... but what here is confusing?



Again... whats the point here? They're going to push the hell out of xCloud but they've also been adamant that local hardware is going to be a big piece of the puzzle. Their whole GamePass and xCloud initiative is worthless without their own hardware, because rival console companies aren't about to let Microsoft's services on it. It's not one or the other, you can push strong for streaming and also still realize physical isn't going anywhere. Microsoft points that out every time they talk about streaming.




Well I'm glad you put confusing in quotations because if these articles you're referencing are your idea of confusing then it certainly deserves those quotations. Also they didn't contradict anything when they talked about bringing GamePass to other consoles. It's called context. Again, if a hugely anti-Xbox site like Resetera can be rational and logical about it, anyone should be able to.

MS doesn't care if you upgrade to Project Scarlett? Why wouldn't Microsoft want XBO users to buy Project Scarlett? MS is content as long as you're already invested to the Xbox ecosystem? How does MS view the next generation then? They'll support the XOne and Scarlett? Its all about software and service growth? This is not a line of thinking that is attractive for consumers ready for the next console generation. 

It sounds like Games Pass is taking precedence over the next generation Xbox. Which likely means MS Studios are going to develop and optimize for both the XOne/Scarlett. MS Studios won't be able to push the Scarlett if they're held back by the XOne. But I guess some of you are okay with that. 

This makes Scarlett sound like an after thought coming into the next generation. The worry is signified through the transition of Xbox as a console, to Xbox as a subscription service, as these statements from Phil make it sound like. Yes, MS is adamant about local hardware being key, but this could mean Project Scarlett, or the entire Xbox ecosystem, as ambiguous as MS made it sound.

But isn’t supporting your old console a good thing when Sony does it? How many times on this forum have we heard about Sony’s “ten year plan” that they started, even though Nintendo did it first? So now it’s a bad thing that Xbone owners might not have a reason to need to upgrade right away to Scarlett? 

Modern game design works exactly like you’re describing with developers designing for a wide range of hardware capabilities. You’re acting as if MS is going to radically change how game design or console generations work. There will be cross gen support for awhile, just like with every console, but eventually games will only be on Scarlett. MS doesn’t care if you upgrade, because if not, you can keep using GamePass and keep getting great games, or you can even use xCloud to stream those Scarlett games with your old Xbone. Sounds like a good deal for consumers?

But as they’ve been adamant about, streaming isn’t for everyone. So they’ll have powerful hardware there for anyone wanting to stay traditional. All their games work no matter how you’re going to consume them, so there’s no need to make up fake concern about how they’ll treat Scarlett.