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Mr Puggsly said:
Pemalite said:

Nothing lasts forever! Also ironic how it fell after Christianity got invented and then got it's claws stuck in...

Pretty sure Rome was on the decline by the time that happen. There was a lack of unity, poorly run government, they started relying on foreigners to fight their battles, etc.

Christianity doesent ruin countries, empires or whatever, atleast not by design. Its not Islam which plays a much bigger role in how countries operate.

I do agree it's a huge stretch to consider Christianity as a reason for the downfall of the Roman Empire. If anything, the early Christians were the more intellectual class of the Romans. "Pagan" was basically a word that meant "bumpkin" in Latin. The Pagans were the equivalent to today's Christian right-wingers who make all these claims about "God hates f**s" and don't actually read the bible (because the majority of those sorts are functionally illiterate, uneducated, and mentally slow).

Additionally, it was Islamic nations which were the most intellectual, productive, and prosperous in Europe and Western Asia during the Middle Ages. For a time, the majority of Christian Bishops were educated in the Islamic world. But there were several negative right-wing trends that entered the Islamic world following the invasion of the Mongols in Asia, which ended the golden age, and the Invasion of the Spanish in Europe; and it has been especially bad in the last century following colonialism and Imperialism of European powers and the Ottoman Empire.

Any religion can be twisted to varying degrees of power and meaning. The problem isn't so much with Christianity, but right-wing Christians who, ironically, would be the equivalent to the Pharisees of the Gospels (those who judge others and govern using religion as a basis), the primary antagonists against Jesus.

Last edited by Jumpin - on 12 August 2019

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