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Azzanation on 08 August 2019
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Conina said:

Why? The USA also has a much bigger police force.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_and_dependencies_by_number_of_police_officers

Australia has 202 police officers each 100,000 people. Canada has 188 police officers each 100,000 people. The USA has 284 police officers each 100,000 people.

Pemalite said:
Azzanation said:
Might as well ban Cars, they also cause a mass amount of deaths per year.
How about fix the solution by educating rather than taking something away via the blame game.

Gun Control doesn't mean the banning of guns.

Your argument is a bit of a fallacy anyway... It's like saying unless we can stop all drug use, we shouldn't have any drug-related laws.

Azzanation said:

Death is death, doesnt matter what form a killer uses to kill someone. Take the guns away, they will hijack a Bus and ram it into a shopping centre and kill even more people.

Doesn't happen.

Azzanation said:

The real issue is having mental people who want to kill on there mind walk the streets. This has been a human issue since the beginning of man not just since we created guns. 

And yet in the US... Those same individuals can walk around carrying a gun. - Do you know what Gun Control even does? It prevents those individuals from easily accruing such weapons.

Azzanation said:

End of the day, take guns away from killers, they will find other means to kill. Its what they want to do, its not something they wake up in the morning asking themselves.. "hmm i have guns, lets go kill people" or "hmm i have no guns i cannot kill people" thinking. Its quite simply a disorder that needs to be addressed and monitored.



Azzanation said:

Also we cannot compare countries with 40m people to a country with 400m. Its alot easier to control crime with a lower number of citizens and in this case, Australia or Canada make up 1 entire US city. Thats how big the USA is to those countries. Also Canada and Australia have a better educational system or at least invest more into it than the States.

False. You can extrapolate data mathematically to make a comparison of countries with 40~ million people to a country with 400~ million people accurately... Which is partly why terms like "Per Capita" actually exist.

To both of you - What does having a bigger police force got to do with what's happening here? The police force can only control the basics of crime and sort out aftermaths of situations etc. Having more doesn't change the fact that a country with 400m people will have more idiots, more mental and demented people, more crazies.. put it simpler, more bad guys. Yes Cops will help in some ways but its not going to solve everything which is why these things still happen as you just proven to yourselves that the US has a decent size police force. 

The issue with the US stems a lot deeper than placing Stricker laws on owning guns. We have rules in place on getting a car licences and the road toll is still one of the highest death casualties in the world. So yes the car argument makes just as much sense. If we want to ban guns because of these killings, than might as well ban cars. That's how stupid it is to blame items and not the individuals. 

The US has a massive black market issue, it also has a education issue and a massive underground issue, and if you guys think that by adding more laws on guns is going to stop these shootings than I am only going to disagree. Because these killers can easily get high powered weaponry off the black market so these shootings will only still take place just instead, no one else can have a gun to defend themselves for when it happens.

Humans need to stop blaming things on other things and instead find the real issues behind them. Guns and Video games are not why these shootings happen. Evil people will be evil people regardless if they have guns or not.