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Shiken said:
Chrkeller said:

I agree that hardware fails, but a quick google search is an easy way to determine if something is a wide spread problem.  The Joy Con problem is incredibly wide spread.  The drift problem with the Joy Cons is more than seen on other hardware.  Easily the most unreliable controller I have ever owned, which is very unlike Nintendo.  And again, search google and notice the abundant amount of fixes...  those fixes wouldn't exist so readily if it weren't a wide spread problem.    

And if we want to count consoles that don't have analogs I have also owned a NES, SNES, Genesis, Saturn, Atari 2600 and 3DO.  The Joy Cons are crap.  

The shorter version is, your isolated experience doesn't discount what everybody else has experienced.  This poll is telling, roughly 70% of people have drift issues..  make a poll for the DS4 see if it gets anywhere near 70%.  I'm guessing not even remotely close.  

A poll of 50 people is not very telling at all honestly.  Not to mention we have no way of telling if people are voting to hate (it happens) or if there are double votes.  If that is how you gather information, it is hard to take your  claims seriously.

Also you too need to check my first post (I quoted myself on the previous page for the other guy I am talking to), I stated that it does seem like a wide spread problem.  Just because I point out the hypocrisy of how people jump on Nintendo and not the other console makers that have had this same issue in the past, or other issues for that matter, it does not mean I am saying the problem does not exist.  As you said afterall, your own isolated experience does not mean it did not happen woth other consoles as well.

There are not double votes, that is not possible, not that it matters. I doubt you would accept any poll because you'd assume people were "doing it to hate". Again, it doesn't matter if we can't prove it scientifically. That's a disingenuous argument to make. You're arguing with Nintendo fans that they're hypocritical for criticizing the company they're a fan of. That makes no sense. Just let it go. We're upset with our favorite company, we rag on other companies too, but right now we're upset with our company of choice. It happens. There's nothing hypocritical about it.