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Otter said:
curl-6 said:

There is no need for a "Switch Pro", and no need for a Switch successor before 2023 at the earliest.

The market is clearly happy with the level of power the Switch offers. Graphics aren't what people are buying it for, nor are AAA multiplats, so the idea that it needs to be stronger and get PS5/Scarlet ports to stay relevant is simply wrong.

4 years at the earliest??

The history of them spending 7 years one one handheld no longer makes sense, the biggest reason for that was software support and vastly different hardware with unique USPs. Nintendo has hit gold with the Switch, the Switch 2 will most likely just be a better version of the 1st, so why wait til 2023? Its not like they sell hardware at loss, they dont have to wait to recoup their losses before they start bleeding again. The truth in the past they would of had to decide which platform to support or rebuild games from the ground up for different very didfferent hardware. In the modern age thats obviously not happening and they could easily support a Switch and Switch 2 simultaneously, whilst rejuvenating interest in the brand and software support.

I  think some of you forget how quickly Nintendo consoles fall in sales in their late life as well as forgetting the revenue potential of having 3rd party games sell on your platform. Its not about chasing PS5 and X4, its about offering the relevant hardware when your audience demands it and for the first time in decades actually being viable as most a primary platform for most gamers.

The timing of the Switch 2 should be a calculated meassurement of demand in the market, new financial opportunities and an affordable technological leap to enable those opportunities. I dont know when that will be but I think Ninty is just a few months from burning through all their best sellers with hardware which is already presenting limitations and shortfalls both for consumers and for developers. We shouldnt assume Nintendo will wait until the Switch stops selling or set a rigid length of time for which it considers a generation.

I agree about Switch Pro being unless though. Ultimately if they offer a more power system it shouldnt just be to fix a games framerate or hit 1080p, but to offer a whole new promising future of new nintendo and third party games.

The "at the earliest" bit was probably unnecessary, as 2024 or later would be a bit too long IMO, but I stand by it not needing a successor before 2023.

Switch is in a better position for long term momentum than almost all prior Nintendo systems as it won't have the problem of their first party support being spread thin across multiple concurrent platforms (like how the 3DS and Wii U drained Wii's software support from 2011) and it has a monopoly over its niche in the market and indeed over the portable space now that Sony has raised the white flag over the Vita's grave.

As far as third party goes, yeah, it's not gonna be sharing AAA blockbusters with PS5 and Scarlet, but it doesn't need to; it's still going to get the kind of AA Japanese titles the 3DS had, plus indies and exclusive deals like Astral Chain, Marvel Ultimate Alliance 3, Daemon x Machina, Bayonetta, Shin Megami Tensei V, etc. 

The 3DS got 6 years, and the Switch is on track to outpace the 3DS considerably, why cut a wildly successful platform short of its full potential?

Last edited by curl-6 - on 18 July 2019