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[Jumpin]

Soundwave said:

Jumpin said:

That's false.
The Wii sold 25.95 million units during its 3rd year 20.53 million in its 4th year on the market, 15.08 million in year 5. All years above the peak performance of the competition (14.3M by PS3 in fy2011), and only in the 6th year did it fall below: but at 9.84 million it was still strongly competing with the now matured ugly duckling PS3 console, and it was only in 2013 (year 7) that the Wii fell significantly below PS3 in sales (3.98m vs 8.4m) Hardly the drop from being a top brand in 2 years flat you claimed. It should also be noted that PS3 sales fizzled in year 8 (2014); not a significantly longer period of success.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/227012/lifetime-unit-sales-of-nintendos-home-consoles/
https://www.statista.com/statistics/651584/global-ps3-console-unit-sales/

The SNES peaked in its second year (with the exception of Japan) http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/reply.php?id=240588&quote=9035461

The only reason the NES "finished strong" is because of its staggered launch: while launching in 1983, it was still launching in certain cities for the first time as late as 1993 in Europe (1991 in the West). It would be dishonest to say the NES had a "strong finish" when in many places it didn't even start the race until the very end.

Dropping by 5 million a year every year for three years is a fairly negative trend even if the peak was quite high, that indicated Wii peaked and then started a downward trajectory which eventually led to the brand completely falling apart and having dropped off dramatically by 2011. 

NES had a staggered launch sure, but Nintendo wasn't like forced to release a new game every month for it towards the end, in 1989 and 1990 they basically just held Super Mario 3 off and it didn't really make any difference because they could afford to not have to carry the platform so much on their own shoulders in those days. 

That doesn't help your "Wii fizzled out after two years flat" argument in the slightest, since you are now saying it fell apart in 2011, which is the fifth year, not the second or third year.

Looking at your other claims:
* 5 million drop is highly negative.
* 2011 is when the Wii collapsed when it sold 15.09 million (still higher than the peak of the competition, I might add).
* That the SNES had a strong lifecycle.

Let's look at the sales data:

* In year 4 the Wii had dropped by 5.42 million to 20.53 million from its year 3 peak of 25.95 million, a decline of 21%.
* In year 5 the Wii fell an additional 5.44 million to 15.09 million, bringing that decline to 43% from peak year 3 levels.
* In Fiscal Year 3 aligned, the SNES sold 12.03 million units, but this fell by 7.09 million to 4.94 million units during year 4, that amounts to a 59% drop.
* It wasn't until year 6, at 62% decline from the year 3 peak that the Wii had a statistical tie of decline during the SNES's 4th year alone.

Now let's draw some conclusions:

Your assertions regarding the Wii are inconsistent with your assertions regarding the SNES.

* If a 5 million drop marks a turn to failure, then surely the SNES's 7.09 million drop during its 3rd to 4th year marks it as a failure as well.
* If the Wii's decline by 43% in its 5th year from its 3rd year marks a failure, then certainly the 59% from the SNES's 3rd to 4th years marks a far greater failure.

From all of this we can deduce one of two possibilities: if the Wii failed in its 5th year then the SNES certainly failed in its 4th year, OR, if the SNES didn't fail in its 4th year, then the Wii didn't fail until its 7th year or later.