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psychicscubadiver said:
Just want to point out that the Switch had shortages for, what, the first six months of its life? And iirc was still supply constrained to some extant for the first year?
Lowering the opening price would not have improved sales when you're already selling all of your available stock.

Even Xbox had shortage for 1 or 2 months.

Switch didn't really outsold what PS4 sold on launch. So clearly there were space for both more supply and more demand.

Pyro as Bill said:
DonFerrari said:

Yes it does, and yes both Sony and MS are greedy on their charging of multiplayer (but not sure why you are asking since Nintendo isn't doing much better on charging for online are they?)

PS4 and X1 sold for a loss at the start of the gen. Sony said they broke even with one game and PS+ sold with a console. That is were the 50 loss per HW assumption comes from (there is no precise and official loss per HW).

Selling HW at a loss at the start of the generation is a strategy used for over 20 years on console world and have nothing to do with not being able to manage own finances or HW being undesireable.

Nintendo has charged me a total of $20 to play online on both their handheld and home consoles for the past 14 years. So yeah, I think that's MUCH better than the competition. Given I'd pay $20/yr for the NES catalog, online multi is still free for me.

Nintendo is greedy when they don't sell their hardware at a loss.
They get complaints when they don't discount their games after the launch hype has worn off.
They get complaints about the price of their online service.

How exactly is Nintendo supposed to make money?

(Basing something's value on how much each component part costs is almost as bad as communism)

Your first argument is the same of people that said they would pay 60 on XBL or PS just for the discount and free games. Myself I don't play MP at all, still have the sub for like 4 years.

Have I said Nintendo is greedy for not selling the HW at loss? Nope, I said for me it is overprice considering the other HW released selling for 50 loss while Switch would be 50 profit.

Nintendo get this complains and deserve it and you know it. Their online was much worse and even Nintendo community complained to pay for it on that state. Every company discount their games from 6-12 months after release and forward.

MS and Sony are making money, so not sure why wouldn't Nintendo make money. It is more like some people preffer to defend Nintendo on what they do that is  less value than the competitors. Like it is some kind of pleasure to pay more for the same.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."