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twintail said:

At the end of the day, there is no speculation. We know what it is Sony is censoring. There is no need for you to reduce underage sexualisation to just "butts and boobs" though. 

You shouldn't let fear of what if maybes be some guide for you. The amount of games we know that have been affected by the policies is incredibly slim. If it was such a huge problem we would have got even more reports by now, but talk has essentially died down on the issue. 

At the end of the day, Sony wont be targeting the niche hardcore you think they will, so no reason to think they will just escalate their censorship policy based on nothings. 

Of course I fully support your decision not to buy something based on company policies. But I do also think that Sony 1st party on PSNow day 1 is a pipedream for the foreseeable future. But you never know, I suppose.

These are the things I watch on a weekly basis.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VA9hLoX7ViY

So this isn't just coming from me. Its a worry but again maybe you are right and that the censorship isn't the same thing we are talking about.

Pemalite said:

If a game sells 15 million and a successive game sells 5 million... Then factually and mathematically that is a decline... No two ways about it, you can't argue against plain black and white numbers.
The fact is, Halo has mathematically been in decline since we hit the heights of Halo 3.

That doesn't mean the games are bad, but there is certainly a sales decline... And that will have absolutely zero bearing on future game releases like Infinite either, they of course need to be judged on their own individual merits.

Still lower than the heights of Halo 3. And if you are going to include Reach we need to include every single other entry into the series as Reach is not regarded as a mainline title.

As for the Xbox One and Halo 5... Remember the Xbox One has sold more consoles than the original Xbox, Halo 2 has still outsold Halo 5. - That is a decline.

Halo 5 is far from a masterpiece though, it came with a plethora of well documented issues and shortcomings.

If you don't count Halo Wars and Remasters because they are a different series/niche product then you can't include Reach, otherwise that is double standards.

Keep in mind a couple things here and that is Halo 5 is also a heavy digital game which would have reduced its own sale numbers (It still wouldn't have gotten any where near close to its predecessors.) Also from what the internet says is that Halo 5 was the biggest and fastest Halo launch ever.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2015/11/04/halo-5-was-the-biggest-launch-in-halo-history/#6c70c6ad9e74

So it might have died off a lot earlier than previous Halo games however it made more money/profits than any other Halo game and more money than any of Sony's 1st party game line up and to what the other Poster is saying that games like Horizon are bigger IPs etc makes me scratch my head. So anyone to say Halo is in decline yet the franchise continues to make more and more money is absurd. Halo is a lot bigger than just video games and it has a much bigger following today than it did before. Halo 5 just didn't have legs and that's because the game did have its fair share of flaws which I 100% agree with you.

Halo 4 made $220m in 24 hours and $300m in 1 week which was considered the biggest Halo launch at the time.

Halo 5 made $400m in its first week which eclipses Halo 4's record. Also at the time Halo 5 broke the Guinness Book of Records for Most-Watched video game. It was also the highest selling Digital game through the Xbox Store at launch week. I think too many are basing the IP's popularity and size off retail sales numbers and not just the entire IP itself. Yes I know its a sales site but to say Halo is in decline, I think money talks here not just retail sales. 

https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/forums/6e35355aecdf4fd0acdaee3cc4156fd4/topics/halo-5-made-400-million-in-the-first-week/864343eb-ac11-4d24-a465-8157104993ff/posts

Sure Halo 5 declines only in video game sales but as an IP and franchise, its as big as its ever been and one of the biggest in the industry and will see what Infinite offers. I am sure Infinite will be no exception to the rule.

Reach should definitely be included as it is a AAA Halo game and a pre-qual. Doesn't need a number to be counted. Reach is no different to any of the numbered mainline games. Reach is also considered by many as one of the best Halo games ever made and it didn't sell as much as Halo 3. But it doesn't have to. If you don't want to include Reach, than you might as well not include Infinite because there is no number.

Last edited by Azzanation - on 11 July 2019