the-pi-guy said:
>benefits Illegals aren't getting massive benefits. >sanctuary city Are set up so that illegal immigrants can call on crime. For example if an illegal immigrant sees someone getting murdered, they can call the police without worrying about repercussions.
And I'm not registered as a Democrat.
Middle class would get taxed for the healthcare, but it'd be replacing their existing healthcare costs.
Cost of living is so high because there literally isn't enough houses for the people in the state. It's not purely because taxes are high.
>dems want to little to no limit on the number of people False. Just because dems don't think spending billions on a border wall is worth it, doesn't mean they want everyone to come over. Most illegal immigrants aren't going to be stopped by a wall.
Unlike the US, Mexico has a universal healthcare system.
Yes all those other social states with low unemployment.
Seeing as you: -don't understand my ideology, shown by such beliefs as: "dems want to little to no limit on the number of people entering" -are vastly overstating the welfare/illegal immigration problems I would say you're the one in need of doing some research.
In the real world though, there are only about 11 million illegal immigrants and that number has been consistently falling over the past 10 years. And they aren't being given massive amounts of money.
It's not the poor, it's not the illegal immigrants. It is the elderly by far.
>what the democrats are proposing is far more ambitious and generous than what other countries provide How so? |
I suppose it becomes a debate on how many billions of dollars is massive support for illegals.
In practice sanctuary are more like cities illegals simply dwell in and may even get benefits, even if they commit crimes. I dont understand this myth that police kick out every illegal they see. If thats the case then theyre doing a terrible job.
Politically Im where center used to be. Your arguments have always been left of that. Dems right now are in the far left. Republicans have found themselves more to the center, unless its a very conservative state. I dont agree with all republican views but I find myself siding with them more just for being closer to the center.
What if the middle class cant afford the tax hikes along with a private healthcare premium? Dems dont want to admit that will happen with their plans. Democrats want options, high taxes reduce options so the politicians lie.
Its a mix of high taxes and too many regulations that have people fleeing blue states. The thing is you arent acknowleding democratic cities have thrived in the past and are seeing a massive decline in recent years. If they were simply run better they would keep growing. People want to live in big cities and democrats keep chasing people away.
In the grand scheme of our spending on the wall is a drop in the bucket. Many more billions go to dealing with illegals. The wall works but not on its own and frankly has become symbolic. Simply throwing illegals out would actually kill demand for a wall.
I did a quick searxh on Mexico's welfare in general, its pathetic and I dont see universal healthcare.
High taxes arent something the dems can run on. They are trying to convince people it will be paid by the rich. Its a lie and many of the illegals wont be able to pay much tax and provide for themselves entirely. They arent exactly highly educated.
We dont know how many illegals are actually in the country, now count is really done for ideological teasons. Estimates vary from 10 to 20 million. Some estimates believe 100K enter monthly. Another $4 billion just went to providing additional care for illegals coming. The whole thing is a mess, thats reality. What has declined is people coming from Mexico while people from other countries has increased.
Indeed, a lot of resources does go to the elderly and rightfully so. Perhaps we arent collecting enough taxes to simply take care of that, perhaps people retire too early and maybe the government is doing a terrible job negotiating healthcare costs (because they suck with money). Essentially we have a government doing a terrible job balancing our current budget yet want to spend significantly more with new social programs. You're actually helping my argument.
I've argued if our government can't find a way to provide reasonably priced healthcare for 100+ million of whatever number they provide for. What good can we expect from another 150 million they hope to take from private providers?
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