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[Mr Puggsly]

the-pi-guy said:

Mr Puggsly said:

Dems are absolutely encouraging people to cross over and have become opposed to kicking people out, they even defend criminals among them. Many examples out there.

Show me some examples of any of this.  

Mr Puggsly said:

I dont care what republicans may have supported, I'm personally opposed to using tax money this way. I mean we can't bitch about tariffs while supporting candidates that want big tax hikes on everybody.

>I'm personally opposed to using tax money this way

Republicans have already helped make it so that tax money is being used that way.  

>I mean we can't bitch about tariffs while supporting candidates that want big tax hikes on everybody.

Tariffs hurt the low end. Dems support raising taxes on the upper class.  Not everybody.  

Mr Puggsly said:

The way democrats push social welfare programs is little like how Europe or. Canada does it. Democrats often want to go well beyond in ways that would be significantly more expensive. Which is why they often evede how to pay for it questions.

>The way democrats push social welfare programs is little like how Europe or. Canada does it

And how do you think it differs?

>Which is why they often evede how to pay for it questions.

It's because Conservatives worry more about taxes, than they do about spending.  

The average conservative is convinced that $10,000 in taxes is worse than spending $12,000 ($5000 in healthcare + $7000 in taxes)

Mr Puggsly said:

Cities and states vary on benefits illegals can benefit from. Maybe thats partly why people are leaving democrat run cities in droves. A lot of federal money also goes to the handling and caring of illegals, many billions.

>Maybe thats partly why people are leaving democrat run cities in droves.

This always gets said.  "People are leaving California in droves".
Despite that, California's population grows quickly.  

>A lot of federal money also goes to the handling and caring of illegals, many billions.

Even the largest estimate of federal spending by a conservative, estimated that the biggest expense was education.  Illegals aren't personally getting billions from the government.  

Mr Puggsly said:

I dont necessarily support the massive military budget nor do I support the food stamp program in a strong economy. We have a strong military partly as means of avoiding war and sometimes policing the world. While social welfare being used by healthy people viable for work is pathetic. Also, there would be less poverty if women were more responsible about who cums in them.

>While social welfare being used by healthy people viable for work is pathetic.

The idea that there are millions of people are getting welfare because they aren't working is false.  A lot of "welfare" programs require that you are working or are temporary.  

Mr Puggsly said:

If its not our job to police the world why is it our job to provide healthcare for the world? Fuck that, maybe Europe can cover that bill.

>why is it our job to provide healthcare for the world?

No one said it was.  

Literally no one.  

The only thing going on is a discussion about providing healthcare for people in the United States.  

Is the offering of benefits, sanctuary cities and discouraging enforcment of throwing illegals not examples of enouragement? Meh... maybe Im just making assumptions...

You seem to have the impression I support republicans blindly. I am not registered as one.

Hehe, you really believe tax hikes would only be on the rich? Thats funny, naive and not reflectice of other welfare states.

California's growth has gone down significantly. People are escaping or simply not moving there in the significant numbers because its becoming a liberal shithole. I live in Arizona and I meet people who moved from blue states regularly. Its the same reason everytime why they moved, cost of living. So if you have the impression dems only wanna tax the rich...

Right, many billions are spent providing services to illegals. Whether its healthcare, education, etc. It also varies by state and taxes will go to support them.

I'm gonna assume you havent met many people on welfare. I've had family getting like $500 in foodstamps for years and never working. They may have cut down on that because the economy has improved and people do abuse it.

That's the thing, dems want to little to no limit on the number of people entering while giving them all free stuff like healthcare. That literally is dealing with the world's problems. The failures of those countries is causing this illegal immigration. Yet those corrupt leaders stay in power and we are expected to pay bills of their people.

Its a good deal for those countries though. The remittances Mexico gets is a nice boost for their economy and a free welfare system.

Now maybe youre thinking if they all just become citizens they can pay taxes too! But the problem is they would not generate enough tax revenue to support a welfare state unless we are all taxed heavily... like other social states. You also cant tax the rich too much or they just leave, other social states consider that as well.

Do a little research please, your ideology doesnt work.