EricHiggin said:
Machiavellian said:
Nope, I actually do not dislike Trump at all. I do not have to like or dislike someone to have an opinion of them. As I have stated, some of the stuff Trump tackles are legit issues, it's the fact that he is incompetent as the person to tackle those issues is the problem.
Not sure why you believe I am mad at Trump just because I believe he is an idiot. Why should I feel sorry for him when he plays the game just like any player. Hell, I wouldn't even care if he goes another 4 years. If he is this glorious leader you believe, I would definitely want you to get the full experience. Trump has been the most entertaining President in a long time. People who probably never followed politics know about positions and the people in those positions due to Trump more than any other President.
The problem with you is that you always try to make even the most bone headed thing Trump do or say into something positive which is fun just seeing you work your magic. I haven't notice any analogies from you lately but I am sure you will throw out a few once you get back up to speed.
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Machiavellian said:
Its the same situation with your example of "Grab her by the _____". The media did not claim anything because anyone who was interested heard exactly what Trump stated since they all but Fox News played the whole tape. Yes, we did here him say "They let you grab them" We also heard how he just goes in and kiss them without consent stating they let you do it because you are rich. The complete context was a man who decided to brag about taking advantage of women because he was rich. Just think about it, sleeping with some Porn star while your wife has just delivered your child. Hell, Trump has cheated on each one of his wives, that is pretty much what he does.
The thing is you are trying to make Trump out to be this moral person which he is definitely not. You only have to do moderate research on Trump to see that he has always been a grifter. Does that mean he would be a bad President, actually no it doesn't. None of the moral stuff Trump has done would actually be a knock on him as a leader. The knock on Trump as a leader is that he is an Idiot. You can look throughout his pass and see that he has always been this big BS artist who has lied about his wealth and his business prowers but in reality he is just a con man and not a very good one.
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Well based on your, 'showing people who they are' logic, If you don't dislike Trump, then are you condoning the things he's said and done, like the things stated above? Talking about woman like that, cheating on his wives, conning and swindling people, etc?
These things don't necessarily make him a bad leader as you mentioned, so does it make him a bad unlikable person, or do you find that acceptable and attractive? If his immorality doesn't make you mad or upset, I don't know why you would bring them up as points against him, if you're really being honest in your rebuttals.
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Your logic is escaping me. No, Trump morality does not make me mad or upset because I am not his wife, his friend or care about him in any of those ways. Why would I waste the emotion for someone I care nothing about. To feel a strong emotion like getting mad he would need to be close and personal to me. I do not have to be mad or upset to not agree with what someone does or live their life. What you are saying has absolutely no bearing on me. I make points about Trump character traits because those traits have a direct bearing on him doing his Job as President.
Cheating on his wife makes him a total ass but does that mean he cannot make good policy no. Telling lies every chance he gets is something totally different. In a job where you deal with people and trust is a important commodity, being untrustworthy is a huge ding.
Maybe you get emotional over these things but you probably shouldn't project them on me.
At the end of the day, I still have no clue what point you are trying to make.
