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Machiavellian on 14 June 2019
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jason1637 said:
Machiavellian said:

There would never be a case you could prove they did not have ulterior motives.  The fact that you would put yourself in a position to be exploited and extorted is another thing.  This is how politicians get compromised.  Just because someone says there is no strings attached to something doesn't mean there isn't.  The reason you think the law is bad is because you are looking at it in this holistic view without taking into account history. The Law isn't in place for the few instances where your case becomes valid, it's there because their isn't a way to validate your case in majority of the situations.

Yes in a beautiful world, another country could say we are doing this for the people but how often do you believe that happens.  Take America for instance, how many times has the US interfered with another country and helped someone get put into power turn out to be best for the people instead of what is best for the US.

If a country like Isreal gave dirt to a candidate that's pro Isreal against a candidate that's not pro Isreal because they know the former would be more beneficial to their country I don't see that as a problem. I do get that It could be a problem if they had an agreement but this ulterior motive can probably be proven with an investigation.

Well it makes sense that the US would interfere in its best interest. Makes no sense for America to intervene if it doesnt benefit us.

I still do not understand your logic.  Are you saying that you are ok that another nation is willing to influence our elections to help themselves instead of the people who live in that country.  So now you have multiple nations doing things that benefit them instead of us and you see nothing wrong with that.  I really do not know what to say that you see nothing wrong with this because the implications are pretty huge.  Even if you take American history as an example you would know how bad this can get.  Hopping an investigation will root this out when the people in power can also influence the investigation is really being naive.