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RolStoppable said:
linkink said:

You guys are really under selling the appeal of the hardware. Switch didn't have droughts  because most of it's big games are from the Wii U, aside from MO, and splatoon 2. Wii U had all those big games that is selling the switch at the moment, yet it only managed 3 million units, think about that. it's like when playstation 4 launched in Europe, all it's software was mostly available on ps3, yet every bought a PS4. it's not all about software, being hardware that people want plays a major role. Europe, and US have similar tastes in games. yet in Europe xbox is selling like crap, while in the US it's doing fine. Handhelds have always sold better in japan. I would love to see Nintendo make a traditional console, and prove me wrong.

Nintendo cannot sustain the releases they had with switch. With technology getting more advanced games are only gonna take longer to make.

Going back to vita. the reason it failed in japan was because it failed WW, support was dead from the very beginning. yet it still did descent numbers in japan, compared to other consoles. 

Nobody is underselling the hardware here. It's only perceived that way by you because you are greatly underselling the software. Switch is better hardware than the PS4 and it has better software than the PS4, hence why it sold so much faster than the PS4. The counter-arguments presented to that all aim for Switch is only better hardware than the PS4, although even that might not be conceded when it's put that way. That's the impression I get from your posts, because you keep talking about traditional consoles, as in, the way Switch is doesn't make its success legitimate in comparison to PlayStation.

Nobody here has said that it's all about the software, so that use such a straw man argument is a sign of desperation in this ongoing discussion. At the end of the day, people buy consoles to play video games - that's especially true for Nintendo consoles, because they only play games. Since that is how consoles are used, software is more important than hardware.

Handhelds have only sold better in Japan since the DS and PSP, before that home consoles sold more every time. That shift goes hand in hand with handhelds outclassing home consoles in quantity of worthwhile games.

The reason why the Vita's sales are so lopsided in Japan's favor is that third party support in Japan was actually decent for several years while American and European publishers called it quits after a couple of years. There was a higher number of interesting games to buy for Japanese gamers than for American and European gamers, so hardware sales followed accordingly.

You're really jumping off the deep end here. Of course switch is a  legitimate success, but it's not a traditional home console, or stationary console if that makes you feel better. Anyway Wii U first year line up was damn solid, it had tons of third-party support and 2D Mario which was up there with Nintendo biggest franchise at the time, i wonder what did WIIU sell it's first year in japan, oh yea it sold like crap. Anyway i know i'm not convincing you, and you are not convincing me. you will always have some straw man excuse, well those games didn't come out as fast as  they did on switch, of course they didn't switch is getting old ports of wiiu games, and it's doing wonders on switch. While those on games on Wii U being totally brand new didn't even move to the needle because it's obvious Japan prefers handhelds heavily this is well known, just ask any gamer that lives in japan, it's cultural thing.   

Last edited by linkink - on 01 June 2019