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RolStoppable said:
VAMatt said:

Are you seriously claiming that state-controlled media is "proper journalism" that "filters out facts from all the nonsense"?  If you truly believe that, I guess the state control is working exactly as intended.  

Social media is not necessarily a good way to get news, that's true.  But, getting it from government controlled sources is certainly no better.  

Yes, that's what I claim. When a story is in the making, they make sure to use words like 'allegedly' and 'supposedly' to create a clear distinction between facts and assumptions.

The standards for journalism in Germany and Austria are probably higher than in most other industrialized nations, because the two countries came from a history of nazi propaganda, so there was a lot more incentive to regulate the official national broadcasters in a way that prevents a repeat of media control.

An important thing to note here is that last weekend a very high-ranking Austrian politician was revealed to have talked about gaining media control in Austria, namely the state-owned ORF and the biggest newspaper Kronen Zeitung. This, among other things, led to his resignation from all political functions on the following day, an end of the government coalition his political party had and the announcement of new elections in September.

Much of the important news is about government.  Expecting the government to accurately report stuff about the government sounds much like what we have here in the US where cops investigate themselves when they shoot people.  In other words, its ridiculous.