| RolStoppable said: 1. You say that the Dreamcast counts as gen 6 because it competed with the PS2 for a short time, but Switch can't be considered gen 9 despite the blatantly obvious expectation that it will compete with the PS5 and XB4 for much longer than the Dreamcast competed with the PS2. Your other point is that generations would cease to exist if Nintendo were the only console manufacturer left. If Sony hadn't exited the handheld market and launched a Vita successor in 2016 when it was due, then we would already have two consoles in gen 9 and you wouldn't be confused. In your argument you recognize that the DS and PSP, and the 3DS and Vita started a new generation, so you should realize that the successor to the 3DS (which the Switch is, because it's not only the successor to the Wii U) constitutes the start of a new generation. I know you realize all that, because all of this is an act of yours. You do not really believe what you post. 2. If you think a few boxes have been left unticked, you should actually mention what they are. It's pointless if you bring up hypotheticals when I am talking about practical terms. A proper counter-argument would be to disprove that the majority of Switch consoles are used to play video games on a TV. But that's something that you can't do, so your initial point that Switch doesn't compete with other home consoles doesn't hold water. |
1. This isn't my ruling, it's the industry's ruling so if they consider Dreamcast to be 6th gen and the Switch to be 8th gen then so be it. I don't believe the industry uses the absolute length of competition metric like you seem to think but they use a relative length of competition as the comparison metric ...
@Bold The DS WITH PSP and the 3DS WITH VITA both constituted a new generation. A sole release of a new system alone like the Switch DOES NOT constitute a new generation. For there to be a new generation, there needs to exist a new competition cycle as well and since a new system alone can't trigger this then the Switch in that case joins the existing competition cycle with 8th gen systems like the PS4/X1 ...
This might change in the future if Nintendo decides not to kill the Switch early by say 2023 but for now the Switch will be viewed as a late entrant to the 8th generation or things might not change at all since since they could as easily delay the new systems by another year since bringing upon a new generation is at their mercy ... (my belief does not matter in this instance)
| RolStoppable said: 2. If you think a few boxes have been left unticked, you should actually mention what they are. It's pointless if you bring up hypotheticals when I am talking about practical terms. A proper counter-argument would be to disprove that the majority of Switch consoles are used to play video games on a TV. But that's something that you can't do, so your initial point that Switch doesn't compete with other home consoles doesn't hold water. |
2. Well for two things, the Switch ISN'T creating an uncontested market OR creating new demand for the most part since these things were inherited by Nintendo's previous incumbent system which was the 3DS so the Switch like any other are just old regular monopolies such as Windows but I suspect you might end up being delusional enough to argue otherwise ...
How was my previous example the PC in ANY way hypothetical ? Because of your flawed logic, you had cover for it with a double standard such as "X% of users must use these features to be counted" but like I said before favouritism for a corporation does some weird things just as you seem detest nationalism for much of the same ...
