Digital Foundry Analysis Video Mortal Kombat 11: Switch vs PS4/Pro/Xbox One/X - From Handheld To 4K!

[Mr Puggsly]

Pemalite said:

Mr Puggsly said:

Hellblade isn't 60 fps and the textures are muddy. I just remembered Ark is very muddy. But you ignored some of those games actually have decent textures, the id games. My guess is the engine plays a big role.

No, there are examples of games with good and poor textures in the 7th gen (relatively crisp vs mud). Dragon Age Inquisition is a great example of a game built for 8th gen and poorly scaled down for 7th gen. Shadow of Mordor, Evil Within and Thief all had terrible textures on 7th gen. Forget the "flat" look of the games, the textures are mud.

On a side note, Dragon Age Inquisition is likely a heavily modified version of the engine versus what Battle 4/Hardline uses. I mean MK11 is UE3, so do the math.

You're indeed not the average consumer, that's why guys like me step in to remind you that you're out of touch. Hence, you pop in and make a silly comment and a guy like me responds. Its like yin and yang, a fitting analogy for this game. Either way, ~900p looks pretty fucking crisp compared to ~540p... especially when one version has mud textures.

Frankly, if you just said the X1 version is blurry or whatever, I probably would have ignored you. You pulled me in with the dog vomit analogy, bad analogies upset me.

The point you are missing is the baked details that was prevalent in 7th gen games, less so in 8th gen games and not all developers put the effort in to bake lighting and shadowing into 7th gen texture assets. (I.E. Dragon Age.)
There is of course going to be exceptions to the rule... So I am not even sure what you are arguing against anymore.

Engine plays a part, but the 7th gen just isn't capable of dynamic details.

Mr Puggsly said:

You're indeed not the average consumer, that's why guys like me step in to remind you that you're out of touch. Hence, you pop in and make a silly comment and a guy like me responds. Its like yin and yang, a fitting analogy for this game. Either way, ~900p looks pretty fucking crisp compared to ~540p... especially when one version has mud textures.

Frankly, if you just said the X1 version is blurry or whatever, I probably would have ignored you. You pulled me in with the dog vomit analogy, bad analogies upset me.

I don't need you to remind me. Nor am I out of touch.
I have a better understanding on graphics rendering than most... And thus I am well positioned to provide an educated response, if you don't like my opinion, then tough luck! I am providing it anyway.

900P looks like a dogs breakfast. 540P looks even worse. That is honestly the truth. 900P certainly doesn't look "crisp" on a 75" 4k panel... Heck it doesn't look crisp on my 1440P 32" panel. If you disagree, you disagree, no skin off my nose.

Resolution has always been the Achilles heel of the Xbox One, Xbox One S and Xbox One SAD... It's also been a massive issue for all of Nintendo's platforms since the Gamecube. Those are the facts.

Your educated response was advanced lighting makes mud textures look crisp and detailed... I simply disagree. I wish that was true, games would probably be a lot smaller and less RAM required.

Yeah, a dog's breakfast versus a dog's abortion. 900p is a world of difference from 540p. I said 900p looks pretty crisp in comparison. I agree there is a point where the resolution is so bad that a game is unpleasant to look at, but it also depends on what other post processing effects they add. Games today tend to soften the image to use less resources on AA, which I'm not crazy about.

I agree, X1 has a resolution disparity compared to PS4. Its not like 900p vs 540p, but there is a difference.

Gamecube was pushing the same resolution as its competitors and had some great looking games. Its the Wii where Nintendo gave up on pushing console graphics.