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SvennoJ on 29 April 2019
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HylianSwordsman said:
SvennoJ said:

Yep more sub layers would be very nice with the ability to carbon copy basic layout and affect elements in other layers for more intricate puzzle design. I loved making puzzle based levels and one of my favorite included between a past and present version of a level like in skyward sword.

Another problem I had is that moveable elements disappeared when getting out of range. I had to design my puzzle chambers in such a way that the player couldn't move too far to the right or left before finishing the puzzle, otherwise critical elements would de-spawn. One of my levels had you guide a cannon through the entire level which caused major headaches as it would disappear if I allowed the player to get too far ahead or behind of it.

Yeah puzzle design was frustratingly limited for me too. There are a lot of creative ways people got around certain limitations in the first game, but they were all insanely complicated and usually involved manipulating certain subtle mechanics or building complex contraptions offscreen. There's so much Nintendo could do to make this more complicated stuff easier, and since a lot of the part of the fanbase that made such levels were the most active and dedicated level designers, I hope they give us what we need.

There were a lot of great levels that made use of the limitations and quirks of the de-spawn system (to use more than the normal allowed maximum of certain items per level) so I guess it could never be 'fixed' for the first game, it would break levels. There were some nice mind benders because of that, especially after you became conditioned to certain things normally not being possible, or actively having to 'break' a rule to finish a puzzle.

And indeed what cycycychris said, more vertical freedom!