Popular Twitch speedrunner banned for "leaking" the N-Word

[Mr Puggsly]

Wyrdness said:

Mr Puggsly said:

My counter was your example was dumb because it really is. The thing is you had to make a hyperbolic comparison because saying the n-word on its own isn't really that bad.

I will make a better example given you're terrible at this. Instead of comparing the n-word used in jest to child porn. How about just regular porn? You know, like maybe a lady that just has her boobs out? That would be a more reasonable comparison given child porn is generally seriously criminal shit with victims. If he is looking at child porn, at that point Twitch has some obligation to report him to authorities.

Frankly, I'm not arguing Twitch shouldn't do something in either scenario. I think a warning would be fine if the n-word is accidently seen or nude lady is accidently broadcasted. Again, its a live broadcast, sometimes things are unintentionally shown, things happen. If it happens multiple times, then bans make sense. Also, it looks like a witch hunt when you complain about trans comments which was more like condemnation of a group than trans people.

The UK has a troubled history as well, I mean its a very white country due to racism. Its no melting pot like the US and that's the way the UK likes it. But lets not get political.

No, your example was terrible but I made a better one, your welcome.

We agree Asians and Jews don't call each their racial epithets in a neutral manner, I think that's part why those words aren't said. Meanwhile the n-word is used often in a neutral manner and still a popular word in rap music. I feel that's partly why people use the n-word in jest. There are black people in the US that are actually opposed to the n-word said by anybody and I respect that. However, many black in the US trivialize the word. However, I'm a guy who likes freedom, I don't much care either way. If people want to use that word neutrally, I don't really give a fuck.

Maybe we will get to a point where saying the n-word is criminal, throw everybody jail who says it. Black people included. Then we will all be happier.

That's the thing about left wingers like you, you want to use the government to punish people in acting the way you feel is acceptable. Politically I fall in the center, I don't like to punish people unless they're really harming others or calling for violence. The left in US complains there are too many people in jail, while constantly encouraging legislation that puts people in jail.

Saying something is dumb doesn't make it so or equate to automatic debunking especially when the is a failure to address the point put forward, your argument was that it's accidental so shouldn't be a ban and I gave another scenario that could be an accident to see if you'd be consistent in sticking to that stance in that scenario the example is consistent as both scenarios are people doing something wrong that accidentally gets broadcasted I used a serious offence in the example because your stance was because it's an accident nothing is wrong. So far your constant avoiding of answering the question highlights more and more you realize your argument has been shot down as you know that simply being an accident doesn't make things okay which is the point of the question your only defence was to try and compare the nature of what each person was doing which was null and void because the answer would remain the same, it's against the TOS so is ban worthy no ifs or buts. As for the trans part ask yourself why he brought up the being a lot of trans in the group to begin with when condemning the group the are also in the discord the are clear messages mocking trans people it isn't a witch hunt if you've made yourself a target through your own antics.

Yes UK has a troubled history only difference is the's more of an effort to integrate the different cultures hence why multiculturalism is one of the most notable and celebrated things over here the is also a far more harder response to things like racism if you used the N word here you'd be in serious trouble.

No my example was fine you didn't make an example you tried to hide behind a select group of ignorants using the word to justify it being used. Again freedom doesn't mean free of consequence and I'm not left wing either keep your US political labels to yourself because what you see as left or right differs heavily from the rest of the world and the fact that calling people left or right is your first port of call because people don't share your stance says a lot about you often it's people that shout left this and that who get upset when Brie Larson makes a statement or Gillette does an advert. Define harm as it's a very broad area you can cause someone a lot of harm just through the things you say.

Your example was too extreme and I explained why, now move on. Saying the n-word isn't that bad and it wasn't intended to be broadcasted. All of that should be taken into consideration and it probably was. But they're punishing him anyway to appease people like yourself.

The UK has made great efforts staying very white, we can agree on that. Your population lacks diversity compared to ours. So you can boast about celebrating diversity but the numbers say otherwise.

I'm educating you on how the n-word is used in a neutral manner by many people. You can call them "ignorants" and attack me for pointing this out, I'm just sharing some facts with you. If all people decided maybe the n-word shouldn't be used in a neutral manner, it wouldn't affect me. I'm just explaining how its often used. But also when society tries to make these words hate or dangerous on their own, people begin to say them because they're given so much power.

You're indeed a left winger, you can dislike the label but you make the same talking points and have the same views. Trust me, you aren't a unique person with original thoughts.

The harm I'm concerned about is physical harm. You know, actual physical violence for the most part.