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Biggerboat1 on 22 April 2019
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DonFerrari said:
Biggerboat1 said:

My point from the beginning is that stating that PSN makes as much money (which I've defined as profit) is a statement that cannot be made as we have zero evidence - and no, an estimate made on a forum has never, nor ever will be, counted as evidence. Maybe it makes more, maybe it makes less, maybe it makes the same - the bottom line is that we don't know, so stating a possibility as fact is wrong!

PSN costs will be massive as the majority of games sales will be paid out to devs. I'd even imagine that only a slice of 1st party games will be attributed PSN with the majority of the sale being attributed to the the development division (after all, they done most of the work). It's essentially a store - and like any store, costs are going to be high relative to revenue as they have to pay the suppliers (or in this case the devs). So I'm really not sure where you're getting this notion that costs will be low... By the way, I've made this point about PSN costs multiple times now, which you seem to completely ignore and instead repeat your knuckle-headed position of 'PSN costs are low'.

If you could pay attention to what I'm writing rather than just trying to win the argument at all costs in the most smug way possible then we might actually get somewhere.

I'm not disputing anything - you are the one disputing my position of 'we don't have the evidence to arrive at a conclusion'.

So unless you can provide this evidence I'm not really sure what you want from me??

Earnings are declared where it happens. So a 1st party game sold on PSN have the revenue declared as PSN revenue, if it were otherwise then 3rd party games sold on PSN would have only Sony portion declared.

Nintendo have the cost of Switch (which let's say sell at break even) that takes much more from the profit than Sony paying the dev cut... game sold at Walmart and PSN the dev/pub get about the same, on Walmart let's say Walmart get 10 and Sony 15, on PSN Sony get 25 (so from 60 sale, 25 profit - 40% margin).

And sorry, but your posture were more on it being impossible that PSN profit more than all of Nintendo instead of it not being possible to prove it right or wrong.

Bold 1 : Yes, REVENUE - I'm not sure what you're trying to clarify here - I've never claimed income generated from game sales isn't included in REVENUE. 

Bold 2 : Hardware is only part of Nintendo's sales, not sure if you've noticed but they're also selling a butt-load of software - of which they'll retain a significantly higher portion of the profit than PSN will from it's software.

Bold 3 : If you want to invent nonsense to argue against, knock yourself out! I actually couldn't care less who's profit is higher - I don't own stock and I don't owe either company anything.

I own a Switch & PS4 btw.

My only point is that the initial statement that PSN made as much money as Nintendo is unfounded, and thus far you've spectacularly failed to prove otherwise.

As usual, you love to argue over nothing and just fill the thread with waffle.

I'm not going to derail this thread any further (I have suggested to you multiple times to move it over to a relevant thread), and I'm also not going to continue yet another futile tail-chasing session with your good self. I'm out ;)