At what point is this child abuse? Trans kids.

[Immersiveunreality]

Torillian said:

Immersiveunreality said:

You view actual support of a child and fictional support as the very same thing as long as it exists under the same idea?

What are you even arguing about.

Bolded :That is kinda your problem in your first comments in this thread you immediately start putting words in other posters mouths and make an argument about something most people just agree on like in this very post you again think we talk about children being "supported".

Also your condencending example is laughable cause people in here are talking about that not all kids firstly know whats healthy for them and that some parents can misuse the whole concept to push genderpolitcal agenda on their own kids but they do not talk about healthy support being bad so you are missing the point of it all.

Again, dont start an argument with me when you need to put words into my mouth to win it.

Btw : I did read the link for your "evidence" and that is good information unrelated to your point but you do not understand the material if you call that evidence and on that very same site there is also lots of research to be found for higher suicide rates in the trans community so it is almost safe to assume you cherrypick information.

NO idea what you're getting at with the first statement, please rephrase.

What I've seen is people equating supporting a kid's gender choices with letting them drink, do drugs, or join a fucking war because kids don't know what they want. Tell me how that isn't assuming harm from the choice, and against the idea of supporting the kid's choices. 

The example gets to the most important question in this entire god damned thread. If you can't answer that then what are you disagreeing with? You think we're talking past each other, fine, tell me your actual position on the example in question and we can really quickly and easily figure out if we actually disagree. So again, your 3-6 year old says they're a girl when you thought they were a boy, what do you do?

Go ahead and explain to me how that evidence doesn't apply and give me the other links. I literally googled the effects of transitioning on transgender suicide rates and found that paper. So if you have other information then link it. Show me a study. 

Here's a link to the study in question to make sure we're talking about the same thing:

https://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/137/3/e20153223

Firstly dont disagree with me on something i never said and turn it on me.

Bolded: Support the 3-6 year old in the way it needs support ofcourse and no one disagrees on that ,you can read that in previous comments.

What you fail to understand is that every child is mentally different and you just put them into one big group that apparently have the same needs,and you also don't understand that most problems with these kids come in their teens and later life and that research is also on the site you use links from,did link it before.You cannot call this an overal healthy practice for a childs development and ignore the years that come after.

So your so called evidence is no evidence but partial information that is good research on its own but it belongs to a bigger whole.

Not all of the children should be pushed towards another gender because children can not always make a healthy decisions for themselves and parents can make children believe they want it so we need to be very carefull and that is why people think not every "support"is in reality support and therefore it is open for abuse.