At what point is this child abuse? Trans kids.

[Torillian]

eva01beserk said:

Torillian said:

Appears that the most recent and legitimate study claims 65% but includes anyone that they had no information on as someone that desisted which is arguable so that number is likely decreased. So what is your prescription for parents whose children say they are transgender given that half will desist? You think it's illegitimate to support these children in their conclusion because half of them will reverse the decision in their teen years?

I mean the article I linked previously concluded that trans children who were supported in their decision showed no increased mental health issues compared to their peers so what exactly is the downside to supporting a child who thinks they are transgender?

I will also state that the idea that half of these kids were wrong still shows that most of them had a pretty good idea of what gender is and what their gender is in particular. Only 0.5-0.6% of people identify as transgender so the idea that these kids were only wrong half the time seems to indicate they have a pretty good idea of their gender even at that age. Otherwise there would be 99.5% desistance to match the numbers seen in the general population. 

Whats your stance on kids eating nothing but candy all day because thats what they want? Would you just let them? And yes, I know its not the same comparison. Just an example of when a kid does not know what its talking about.

But its simple. You dont have to encourage the thought of a toddler. You can explain a little to the kid and let him still claim it or deny it. Not take all their boy close and burn it and buy dresses. You might not believe it, but kids change their minds all the time, so you might not want to take what they say and carve it in stone. 

And about your resistance 99.5% is just absurd. This is just the people being observed. Transgender has exploded recently and parents are doubting their parenting even more. I would not be surprised if at any point in time in our youth we thought we were something else. Just our parents dint think any of it just child play. Now a 2 year old says something and they run to a psychologist. Like you said, trans are a tiny fraction of the population so its easier to study. But the general population is harder to study cuz untill something happens that splits them, then they are a control group.

Again, you have chosen an example where there are obvious detriments to supporting the child's decision. Show me the same for transgendered youth and you have a point. From what I've read supporting a child in their gender choices would be akin to supporting them in the colors they want to wear. It has no detrimental effects. Show me otherwise or stop with these crazy examples that have nothing to do with the topic at hand. 

And where the fuck did I say to take all their boy clothes and burn them and buy dresses? How is that supporting the child in their making a decision?

So you argue that there are more trans in the current generation than 0.5%? Can you show me anything that supports this because so far this (similar to your other claims) really seems like a "feels over reals" argument that I can't really argue against with facts and data.